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Question on Russ Feingold
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I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
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Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
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Quote from: nickshepDEM on March 30, 2005, 05:37:32 pm
Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
Who do you think he would choose as his Veep?
Biden-with his foreign relations expertice
Bayh-able to get the moderate conservatives
Richardson-Hispanic vote and could pull in Nevads, New Mexico, or the long-shot Arizona.
Warner-Don't know much about him.
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March 30, 2005, 05:43:30 pm »
The 'Draft Feingold' campaign is getting huge now. He'll run.
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Regional advantage probably helps him in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, and Michigan. He's a perfect candidate for New Hampshire. So he basically starts with 238 EV (Kerry states + Iowa - Pennsylvania).
If he chooses Bayh as VP, he can probably win Ohio and Pennsylvania, and get 279 EV (Iowa becomes irrelevant)
If he chooses Richardson as VP, he can probably get NM and NV. If he gets PA as well, then he wins with just one more state (OH, CO, MO are possibilities)
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Quote from: jfern on March 30, 2005, 07:08:30 pm
Regional advantage probably helps him in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, and Michigan. He's a perfect candidate for New Hampshire. So he basically starts with 238 EV (Kerry states + Iowa - Pennsylvania).
If he chooses Bayh as VP, he can probably win Ohio and Pennsylvania, and get 279 EV (Iowa becomes irrelevant)
If he chooses Richardson as VP, he can probably get NM and NV. If he gets PA as well, then he wins with just one more state (OH, CO, MO are possibilities)
The fact that he is Jewish helps him in FL.
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Re: Question on Russ Feingold
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March 30, 2005, 11:49:07 pm »
The fact that he has a blog is a sign he will run.
http://www.senator-russ-feingold.mydd.com/
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Re: Question on Russ Feingold
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Quote from: Smash255 on March 30, 2005, 10:42:19 pm
Quote from: jfern on March 30, 2005, 07:08:30 pm
Regional advantage probably helps him in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, and Michigan. He's a perfect candidate for New Hampshire. So he basically starts with 238 EV (Kerry states + Iowa - Pennsylvania).
If he chooses Bayh as VP, he can probably win Ohio and Pennsylvania, and get 279 EV (Iowa becomes irrelevant)
If he chooses Richardson as VP, he can probably get NM and NV. If he gets PA as well, then he wins with just one more state (OH, CO, MO are possibilities)
The fact that he is Jewish helps him in FL.
Yeah, if he gets Florida, he just needs one of PA, OH, NM, NV, or CO.
Anyways, Feingold could choose a more conservative candidate to help him with some particular swing states, and it wouldn't hurt turnout amoung the base.
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Quote from: J.R. Brown on March 30, 2005, 05:42:45 pm
Quote from: nickshepDEM on March 30, 2005, 05:37:32 pm
Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
Who do you think he would choose as his Veep?
Biden-with his foreign relations expertice
Bayh-able to get the moderate conservatives
Richardson-Hispanic vote and could pull in Nevads, New Mexico, or the long-shot Arizona.
Warner-Don't know much about him.
Feingold/Biden and Feingold/Richardson seem possible. He'd probably look to Biden to take some of the focus away from his social issue stances. He'd look to Richardson to he could put New Mexico and Nevada in play/lean Dem.
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Re: Question on Russ Feingold
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March 31, 2005, 02:29:48 am »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 02:27:33 am
Quote from: J.R. Brown on March 30, 2005, 05:42:45 pm
Quote from: nickshepDEM on March 30, 2005, 05:37:32 pm
Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
Who do you think he would choose as his Veep?
Biden-with his foreign relations expertice
Bayh-able to get the moderate conservatives
Richardson-Hispanic vote and could pull in Nevads, New Mexico, or the long-shot Arizona.
Warner-Don't know much about him.
Feingold/Biden and Feingold/Richardson seem possible. He'd probably look to Biden to take some of the focus away from his social issue stances. He'd look to Richardson to he could put New Mexico and Nevada in play/lean Dem.
Warner seems like another VP possibility - current Virginia governor who is term limited at the end of this year.
Bayh might be a good choice for winning Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Other names that come to mind are Gore, Spitzer, Schweitzer, Reid, and Edwards.
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March 31, 2005, 02:37:06 am »
Quote from: jfern on March 31, 2005, 02:29:48 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 02:27:33 am
Quote from: J.R. Brown on March 30, 2005, 05:42:45 pm
Quote from: nickshepDEM on March 30, 2005, 05:37:32 pm
Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
Who do you think he would choose as his Veep?
Biden-with his foreign relations expertice
Bayh-able to get the moderate conservatives
Richardson-Hispanic vote and could pull in Nevads, New Mexico, or the long-shot Arizona.
Warner-Don't know much about him.
Feingold/Biden and Feingold/Richardson seem possible. He'd probably look to Biden to take some of the focus away from his social issue stances. He'd look to Richardson to he could put New Mexico and Nevada in play/lean Dem.
Warner seems like another VP possibility - current Virginia governor who is term limited at the end of this year.
Bayh might be a good choice for winning Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Other names that come to mind are Gore, Spitzer, Schweitzer, Reid, and Edwards.
Feingold/Warner could happen. I agree about Bayh. Feingold's chances of winning OH and PA go up with that selection.
As for the others:
Gore - That's not happening.
Spitzer - The two years as Governor won't be enough but I actually do expect him to be mentioned as a possible running mate for whoever the nominee is.
Schweitzer - No. He wouldn't bring all that much to the ticket (Sure a nice conservative Democrat that could help here and there but I hope you're not thinking he could carry Montana for Feingold.)
Reid - Maybe.
Edwards - It's Presidential nominee or bust for Edwards, in my opinion.
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Re: Question on Russ Feingold
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March 31, 2005, 02:37:59 am »
Quote from: jfern on March 31, 2005, 02:29:48 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 02:27:33 am
Quote from: J.R. Brown on March 30, 2005, 05:42:45 pm
Quote from: nickshepDEM on March 30, 2005, 05:37:32 pm
Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
Who do you think he would choose as his Veep?
Biden-with his foreign relations expertice
Bayh-able to get the moderate conservatives
Richardson-Hispanic vote and could pull in Nevads, New Mexico, or the long-shot Arizona.
Warner-Don't know much about him.
Feingold/Biden and Feingold/Richardson seem possible. He'd probably look to Biden to take some of the focus away from his social issue stances. He'd look to Richardson to he could put New Mexico and Nevada in play/lean Dem.
Warner seems like another VP possibility - current Virginia governor who is term limited at the end of this year.
Bayh might be a good choice for winning Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Other names that come to mind are Gore, Spitzer, Schweitzer, Reid, and Edwards.
of these, Governors
Mark Warner (VA)
,
Janet Napolitano (AZ)
, and
Bill Richardson (NM)
seem to be the most likely and attractive candidates for the VP slot -it is never a good idea to have two senators at the head of the ticket. we need at least one governor up there who can appeal to certain constituencies and show executive experience.
Elliot Spitzer hasn't even been elected governor yet, but should he become New York Governor, he should serve at least two terms in office before turning his attention to the presidency or the vice-presidency...the same goes for Governor Mike Schweitzer of Montana. John Kerry, John Edwards, and Al Gore are out of the question -they lost last time. Harry Reid should remain in his current role as Senate minority leader. he has an important role to play there and it does no good to anyone if he is suddenly pulled from the Senate to the vice-presidency.
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Re: Question on Russ Feingold
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March 31, 2005, 02:42:37 am »
Here's a good article on the "Dark Horse" Russ Feingold.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7326869/
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Re: Question on Russ Feingold
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Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 02:37:06 am
Quote from: jfern on March 31, 2005, 02:29:48 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 02:27:33 am
Quote from: J.R. Brown on March 30, 2005, 05:42:45 pm
Quote from: nickshepDEM on March 30, 2005, 05:37:32 pm
Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
Who do you think he would choose as his Veep?
Biden-with his foreign relations expertice
Bayh-able to get the moderate conservatives
Richardson-Hispanic vote and could pull in Nevads, New Mexico, or the long-shot Arizona.
Warner-Don't know much about him.
Feingold/Biden and Feingold/Richardson seem possible. He'd probably look to Biden to take some of the focus away from his social issue stances. He'd look to Richardson to he could put New Mexico and Nevada in play/lean Dem.
Warner seems like another VP possibility - current Virginia governor who is term limited at the end of this year.
Bayh might be a good choice for winning Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Other names that come to mind are Gore, Spitzer, Schweitzer, Reid, and Edwards.
Feingold/Warner could happen. I agree about Bayh. Feingold's chances of winning OH and PA go up with that selection.
As for the others:
Gore - That's not happening.
Spitzer - The two years as Governor won't be enough but I actually do expect him to be mentioned as a possible running mate for whoever the nominee is.
Schweitzer - No. He wouldn't bring all that much to the ticket (Sure a nice conservative Democrat that could help here and there but I hope you're not thinking he could carry Montana for Feingold.)
Reid - Maybe.
Edwards - It's Presidential nominee or bust for Edwards, in my opinion.
Well, Gore might be good, but he might do more with a more conservative running mate.
Spitzer was already mentioned as a running mate for 2004, so another 4 years won't hurt.
Schweitzer isn't so conservative, but he is from a red state. Maybe he'd help in NV, NM, CO. Reid would definitely help in those states.
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Well, Gore might be good, but he might do more with a more conservative running mate.
Spitzer was already mentioned as a running mate for 2004, so another 4 years won't hurt.
Schweitzer isn't so conservative, but he is from a red state. Maybe he'd help in NV, NM, CO. Reid would definitely help in those states.
How can someone seriously mention a State AG as a VP candidate? Come on. I'm not doubting it happened but what were the people thinking when they mentioned that as a possibility?
Schweitzer could help in NV, NM, CO but if they want to look for someone that can really help in those states, then they'll look at Richardson. Reid would help out a lot in CO and would flip NV. Not sure about NM though.
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Re: Question on Russ Feingold
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Quote from: Frodo on March 31, 2005, 02:37:59 am
Quote from: jfern on March 31, 2005, 02:29:48 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 02:27:33 am
Quote from: J.R. Brown on March 30, 2005, 05:42:45 pm
Quote from: nickshepDEM on March 30, 2005, 05:37:32 pm
Quote from: Rutzay on March 30, 2005, 05:32:38 pm
I just want to know if he will run and what his chances of getting the nomination are. Has he began to take any steps towards a run for the white house? Just wondering.
He will run. He has a great chance at receiving the nomination. Espeically if a ton of moderates like Warner, Bayh, Richardson, and Biden run. They will split the moderate vote and Feingold will sneak in the back door and snatch up the entire liberal base and win the nomination.
Who do you think he would choose as his Veep?
Biden-with his foreign relations expertice
Bayh-able to get the moderate conservatives
Richardson-Hispanic vote and could pull in Nevads, New Mexico, or the long-shot Arizona.
Warner-Don't know much about him.
Feingold/Biden and Feingold/Richardson seem possible. He'd probably look to Biden to take some of the focus away from his social issue stances. He'd look to Richardson to he could put New Mexico and Nevada in play/lean Dem.
Warner seems like another VP possibility - current Virginia governor who is term limited at the end of this year.
Bayh might be a good choice for winning Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Other names that come to mind are Gore, Spitzer, Schweitzer, Reid, and Edwards.
of these, Governors
Mark Warner (VA)
,
Janet Napolitano (AZ)
, and
Bill Richardson (NM)
seem to be the most likely and attractive candidates for the VP slot -it is never a good idea to have two senators at the head of the ticket. we need at least one governor up there who can appeal to certain constituencies and show executive experience.
Elliot Spitzer hasn't even been elected governor yet, but should he become New York Governor, he should serve at least two terms in office before turning his attention to the presidency or the vice-presidency...the same goes for Governor Mike Schweitzer of Montana. John Kerry, John Edwards, and Al Gore are out of the question -they lost last time. Harry Reid should remain in his current role as Senate minority leader. he has an important role to play there and it does no good to anyone if he is suddenly pulled from the Senate to the vice-presidency.
Yeah, you're right that we need to be cautious about 2 Senators. If he can't win any of the kind of long shot states of Colorado, Missouri, Arkansas, or West Virginia, then he needs to win either
1. Pennsylvania and Ohio
2. Florida and all of the small swing states, or one of PA or OH.
The best he can do without that is an electoral tie, which is no good for the Democrats.
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Well, Gore might be good, but he might do more with a more conservative running mate.
Spitzer was already mentioned as a running mate for 2004, so another 4 years won't hurt.
Schweitzer isn't so conservative, but he is from a red state. Maybe he'd help in NV, NM, CO. Reid would definitely help in those states.
How can someone seriously mention a State AG as a VP candidate? Come on. I'm not doubting it happened but what were the people thinking when they mentioned that as a possibility?
Schweitzer could help in NV, NM, CO but if they want to look for someone that can really help in those states, then they'll look at Richardson. Reid would help out a lot in CO and would flip NV. Not sure about NM though.
Spitzer wasn't your average state AG. He really went after curropt companies, and made them take a beating in the stock market. He's got a 62-15 approval rating. Remember, Bush still got 40% there.
Maybe Richardson would help in Florida.
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Well, Gore might be good, but he might do more with a more conservative running mate.
Spitzer was already mentioned as a running mate for 2004, so another 4 years won't hurt.
Schweitzer isn't so conservative, but he is from a red state. Maybe he'd help in NV, NM, CO. Reid would definitely help in those states.
How can someone seriously mention a State AG as a VP candidate? Come on. I'm not doubting it happened but what were the people thinking when they mentioned that as a possibility?
Schweitzer could help in NV, NM, CO but if they want to look for someone that can really help in those states, then they'll look at Richardson. Reid would help out a lot in CO and would flip NV. Not sure about NM though.
Spitzer wasn't your average state AG. He really went after curropt companies, and made them take a beating in the stock market. He's got a 62-15 approval rating. Remember, Bush still got 40% there.
Maybe Richardson would help in Florida.
I know he had a lot of fame (main reason why he seems to be walking away with the 2006 Governor's race) but a Vice Presidential candidate? Come on.
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Spitzer will be somewhere on the ticket in either 2012 or 2016, but not 2008.
By the way, I think Russ will be one of the top candidates in 2008 along with Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, and Bill Richardson. Hillary is a pretender, she would be a horrible choice.
Right now, my top two are Russ and Mark Warner. Russ is the most principled man in the Senate and I think we would be a great candidate, although I'm not sure if we could win a national election at the top of the ticket.
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ON WISCONSIN : JS ONLINE : NEWS : WISCONSIN : E-MAIL | PRINT THIS STORY
Southern strategy for Feingold
Sounding like a candidate, he seeks resonance with Alabama voters
By CRAIG GILBERT
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Posted: March 30, 2005
Montgomery, Ala. - What is Russ Feingold doing deep in the heart of Bush Country?
Running for president?
"I really don't know, and I'm not going to worry about it," Feingold told the Montgomery Advertiser on Tuesday when the newspaper asked him about 2008.
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Sen. Russ Feingold (right) discusses local history while he and his wife Mary Feingold tour historic downtown Montgomery, Ala.,
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Sen. Russ Feingold (right) discusses local history while he and his wife Mary Feingold tour historic downtown Montgomery, Ala., Tuesday on a bus.
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Plunging into a national debate over his party's future?
"The Democratic Party hasn't been doing too well. Maybe we ought to listen to people in other states," Feingold said at a "listening session" he held Tuesday in - of all places - George W. Bush's top congressional district in the country, the Alabama 6th. (The president got 78% of the vote there.)
Wisconsin's junior senator spent Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday driving around this politically forbidding "red state," meeting with liberal and conservative Democrats, Bush voters, local dignitaries and a curious Alabama media, enjoying the improbability of it all.
"When was the last time some Democrat from another part of the country went into Greenville, Alabama, and just said, 'What's the deal here?' " Feingold said before his trip.
You could look at Feingold's Alabama adventure as an extended conversation between North and South over the current woes and future direction of the Democratic Party.
Or you could view it as a guy who might run for president taking his style and message out for an early road test.
More here:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/mar05/314080.asp
This blog links to a lot of Feingold sites:
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