who will be on the field first:Ray Rice or Josh Gordon

[dead0man]

The NFL is looking at the rules and pot, but right now they are just stupidly strict.

[dead0man]

The Ray Rice interview was AMAZING in it's horribleness.  He actually said, during an apology for knocking his lady out, that....

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unfunkingbelieveable.  And his wife....

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UGGGGGG  Clearly this guy likes his women like he likes his fish....battered.


Of course the Ravens and the NFL welcomed the murdering thug Ray Lewis back and this is just a little wife beating.

[dead0man]

2 freaking game suspension.....for wife beating.  Meanwhile, Justin Blackmon may never play again....for smoking pot.

[Paul Kemp]

2 freaking game suspension.....for wife beating.  Meanwhile, Justin Blackmon may never play again....for smoking pot.

I mean, Blackmon's got a few DUI's under his belt as well...

But yea, the Rice thing is obviously ludicrous and shows that the idea that Goodell is a strong disciplinarian is selective at best. Compare what he gave Rice for doing something heinous on camera to what he gave Ben for alleged actions...

Goodell's whole reign is a sham and is riddled with clear double standards - especially with the health issues.

[dead0man]

2 freaking game suspension.....for wife beating.  Meanwhile, Justin Blackmon may never play again....for smoking pot.

I mean, Blackmon's got a few DUI's under his belt as well...

True true, and DUI has, at least potentially, the ability to be much worse than wife beating if you hit a bus of orphans or something.

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Or the plethora of suspensions given to linebackers and safteys for hitting people too hard.

[King]

While I don't think there's any racial bias by the league, the only thing that would cause enough uproar among the public over the drug policy would be a white starting quarterback being suspended for a marijuana test.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

2 freaking game suspension.....for wife beating.  Meanwhile, Justin Blackmon may never play again....for smoking pot.

I mean, Blackmon's got a few DUI's under his belt as well...

True true, and DUI has, at least potentially, the ability to be much worse than wife beating if you hit a bus of orphans or something.

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Or the plethora of suspensions given to linebackers and safety for hitting people too hard.

Perhaps the two-game suspension would have been tougher had the wife suffered a concussion. </black humor>

[dead0man]

hehe....she was out cold, so he probably did.  Good joke though!

[Grumpier Than Thou]

2 freaking game suspension.....for wife beating.  Meanwhile, Justin Blackmon may never play again....for smoking pot.

This. But welcome to America, I guess.

[The Ex-Factor]

While I don't think there's any racial bias by the league, the only thing that would cause enough uproar among the public over the drug policy would be a white starting quarterback being suspended for a marijuana test.

Do it Johnny Football. Take one for the cause of advancing sensible NFL disciplinary policies.

[Paul Kemp]

While I don't think there's any racial bias by the league, the only thing that would cause enough uproar among the public over the drug policy would be a white starting quarterback being suspended for a marijuana test.

I tend to believe that Ray Rice would have gotten a longer suspension than 2 games if his fiancee was a blonde, white woman but maybe that's just me...

[dead0man]

He'd have been kicked out of the league if it was Goodell's daughter.

[Paul Kemp]

The Ravens need a new PR team.

[Paul Kemp]

Also relevant is the NFL's backwards drug testing system.

[Paul Kemp]

The video of Rice actually punching his fiancee in the face and knocking her out has been released. It's on all the sites if you really want to watch. I didn't but I suppose it confirms the worst. The Ravens and the NFL both look horrible, even worse than before, and need to re-evaluate their priorities ASAP.

Officials from other teams think the Ravens may release Rice now but I'm not sure. May be giving that organization too much credit. Obviously I hope they do and he never plays another snap in the league but who knows...

In Gordon's case, the league is working with the Union to reach a new agreement which some believe could allow Gordon, as well as Welker and other plays who were suspended for PED and drug offenses, to play this year. I'm skeptical but I picked up Gordon in my fantasy league just in case.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Ray Rice needs to be released by his team.....but those scumfuckers won't......did.  Who knew?

[King]

Also relevant is the NFL's backwards drug testing system.

Called it. White guy Wes Welker caused the push back finally.

As for the Rice tape, the interesting thing is that it doesn't even look like they were fighting before he knocked her out.

[Yank2133]

I have to roll my eyes at the fake moral outrage by some people over Rice. People are reacting because it was on tape, NFL players have done far more heinous things to women and they have brushed it off and continue to support the league.

[Paul Kemp]

I have to roll my eyes at the fake moral outrage by some people over Rice. People are reacting because it was on tape, NFL players have done far more heinous things to women and they have brushed it off and continue to support the league.

Ok? Your point is...? Perhaps this situation carries more weight exactly because it is on film and there is no doubt about it. No "he said, she said" - it's all right there, clear as day. Keep in mind that knowing this footage exists, the team continued to support him whole heartedly. The response or lack thereof from law enforcement is also worrying. 

What is "fake" about being upset at an awful crime committed on video?

Also, please cite examples to your latter claim. I think I may be familiar with a few - none like this exactly - but I'm not sure you are...

[free my dawg]

The video of Rice actually punching his fiancee in the face and knocking her out has been released. It's on all the sites if you really want to watch. I didn't but I suppose it confirms the worst. The Ravens and the NFL both look horrible, even worse than before, and need to re-evaluate their priorities ASAP.

Officials from other teams think the Ravens may release Rice now but I'm not sure. May be giving that organization too much credit. Obviously I hope they do and he never plays another snap in the league but who knows...

In Gordon's case, the league is working with the Union to reach a new agreement which some believe could allow Gordon, as well as Welker and other plays who were suspended for PED and drug offenses, to play this year. I'm skeptical but I picked up Gordon in my fantasy league just in case.

Same. If it works out, having Megatron/Gordon/Nelson is going to be dirty.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I have to roll my eyes at the fake moral outrage by some people over Rice. People are reacting because it was on tape, NFL players have done far more heinous things to women and they have brushed it off and continue to support the league.

Roethlisburger gets a 6 gamer, reduced to 4 (before the GA incident) with zero charges, no film, nada.

[free my dawg]

Considering recent developments I wouldn't be surprised to see Gordon back after all.

[Yank2133]

I have to roll my eyes at the fake moral outrage by some people over Rice. People are reacting because it was on tape, NFL players have done far more heinous things to women and they have brushed it off and continue to support the league.

Ok? Your point is...? Perhaps this situation carries more weight exactly because it is on film and there is no doubt about it. No "he said, she said" - it's all right there, clear as day. Keep in mind that knowing this footage exists, the team continued to support him whole heartedly. The response or lack thereof from law enforcement is also worrying. 

What is "fake" about being upset at an awful crime committed on video?

Also, please cite examples to your latter claim. I think I may be familiar with a few - none like this exactly - but I'm not sure you are...

It shouldn't and that is my point. Greg Hardy was found guilty of assaulting his girlfriend, yet there is no one out there saying the Panthers should release Greg Hardy(who played yesterday). Why, because it wasn't caught on tape.

People are reacting to the tape, not the crime itself. You take away the tape and everything plays out the same(Rice takes the same plea deal), he doesn't even get suspended and no one would really care.

Domestic violence has been a problem in the NFL for a while now. Like the Sterling debacle, it shouldn't have taking a tape for people to finally speak up about it.  

[Paul Kemp]

I have to roll my eyes at the fake moral outrage by some people over Rice. People are reacting because it was on tape, NFL players have done far more heinous things to women and they have brushed it off and continue to support the league.

Ok? Your point is...? Perhaps this situation carries more weight exactly because it is on film and there is no doubt about it. No "he said, she said" - it's all right there, clear as day. Keep in mind that knowing this footage exists, the team continued to support him whole heartedly. The response or lack thereof from law enforcement is also worrying.  

What is "fake" about being upset at an awful crime committed on video?

Also, please cite examples to your latter claim. I think I may be familiar with a few - none like this exactly - but I'm not sure you are...

It shouldn't and that is my point. Greg Hardy was found guilty of assaulting his girlfriend, yet there is no one out there saying the Panthers should release Greg Hardy(who played yesterday). Why, because it wasn't caught on tape.

People are reacting to the tape, not the crime itself. You take away the tape and everything plays out the same(Rice takes the same plea deal), he doesn't even get suspended and no one would really care.

Domestic violence has been a problem in the NFL for a while now. Like the Sterling debacle, it shouldn't have taking a tape for people to finally speak up about it.  

Ok, it shouldn't have taken video for people to speak out but is it really a problem if it is?

I think most people who are "outraged" were even before the tape was released. I mean, Goodell's hand was pretty much forced by public opinion to make harsher penalties.

[Yank2133]

I have to roll my eyes at the fake moral outrage by some people over Rice. People are reacting because it was on tape, NFL players have done far more heinous things to women and they have brushed it off and continue to support the league.

Ok? Your point is...? Perhaps this situation carries more weight exactly because it is on film and there is no doubt about it. No "he said, she said" - it's all right there, clear as day. Keep in mind that knowing this footage exists, the team continued to support him whole heartedly. The response or lack thereof from law enforcement is also worrying.  

What is "fake" about being upset at an awful crime committed on video?

Also, please cite examples to your latter claim. I think I may be familiar with a few - none like this exactly - but I'm not sure you are...

It shouldn't and that is my point. Greg Hardy was found guilty of assaulting his girlfriend, yet there is no one out there saying the Panthers should release Greg Hardy(who played yesterday). Why, because it wasn't caught on tape.

People are reacting to the tape, not the crime itself. You take away the tape and everything plays out the same(Rice takes the same plea deal), he doesn't even get suspended and no one would really care.

Domestic violence has been a problem in the NFL for a while now. Like the Sterling debacle, it shouldn't have taking a tape for people to finally speak up about it.  

Ok, it shouldn't have taken video for people to speak out but is it really a problem if it is?

I think most people who are "outraged" were even before the tape was released. I mean, Goodell's hand was pretty much forced by public opinion to make harsher penalties.

I doubt it, Jovan Belcher killed his wife and then himself during a domestic dispute and that barely raised a conversation about domestic violence in the NFL. Hell, the fact the Greg Hardy and Ray McDonald played yesterday without much backlash says to me the Rice case is all about the video, and not really the crime.