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« Reply #100 on: September 29, 2014, 06:20:00 PM »
« edited: September 30, 2014, 12:23:26 AM by jimrtex »

Edit Picture: Correct Populations

Prison adjusted population for Census Tract 12, Block Groups 2 and 3.

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« Reply #101 on: September 29, 2014, 07:10:48 PM »

Census Tract 12, Block Group 4

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« Reply #102 on: September 29, 2014, 08:06:41 PM »

Census Tract 13, Block Group 1

The map is truncated on the north, approximately at Dock Street, beyond the northernmost apartment on Front Street.  The map on the south is unpopulated open land.

Technically, Blocks 1000, 1001, and 1002 are all divided between wards 1 and 2.  Block 1000 is the Hudson River, Block 1001 is the railroad tracks along the river.  Both are unpopulated.

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« Reply #103 on: September 29, 2014, 09:21:45 PM »

Census Tract 13, Block Group 2

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« Reply #104 on: September 29, 2014, 09:44:25 PM »

Census Tract 13, Block Group 3

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« Reply #105 on: September 29, 2014, 10:14:14 PM »

Census Tract 13, Block Group 4

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« Reply #106 on: September 29, 2014, 11:52:49 PM »

Census Tract 13, Block Group 5

Technically the boundary between wards 3 and 5 diagonally crosses Public Square (now 7th Street Park), blocks 5008 and 5009.

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« Reply #107 on: September 30, 2014, 09:41:10 AM »

Unless I'm doing something really stupid, Hudson is way off on the population of Ward 1.



To match the Papa+ totals, the Front Street block (13/1002) would have to be split Ward 1 307:Ward 2 58; and the Great Northern block (12/1000) Ward 4 270:Ward 2 19.

The northern limit of the Front Street block (13/1002) is north of Dock Street.  The limit is an estuary of the Hudson that crosses under the railroad tracks.   There are a number of boat houses, but possibly some residential structures.  If there are, this would require a slightly larger allocation to Ward 2.

Great Northern block (12/1000)

There is a cluster of 6 or so houses at Mill Street and 2nd Street, and 3 or so at Strawberry Alley and 2nd Street.   The 5 houses at the east end of Mill Street are new, but appear to have been completed before 2010.   Off the tip of Mill Street is either a barn, or perhaps a barn converted to a residence.   It appears to be west of 3rd Street extended.   The structure mid-block on the north side of Strawberry Alley does not look residential, but I suspect many housing units on the alleys don't have picket fences.   So that is around 15 houses in the Ward 2 portion of the block.

For Ward 4:

12 houses east side of 3rd Street, south to Rope Alley.
8 units houses on Rope Alley east of 3rd Street.
18 houses on north side of State Street, east of 3rd Street, but some likely multifamily
12 houses on north side of Carroll Street.
3 houses on west side of Short Street, including one set back.
1 multifamily on west side of Short Street (6 units?)
12 houses near intersection of Harry Howard, Mill Street, and Lucille Drive.
So 71 housing units in total, but could be more based on houses converted to multifamily.

Census shows 105 Housing Units, and 85 Group Quarters population (skilled nursing), so the Firemen's home.   I suspect that most of the extra housing units are in Ward 4.

289 - 85 = 204 population in housing units.

I'll put all the additional housing units in Ward 4.

So 15:(71 + 19) housing units

15:90 :: 29:175

So perhaps Ward 2 29 persons:, Ward 4 260.

The 270:19 split needed to match the Papa+ total for Ward 4 is not too implausible.
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« Reply #108 on: October 01, 2014, 03:01:39 AM »

Showing block allocations.



Who did the allocations for 2010?

The numbers appear in Papa+ report for Hudson, as well as the voting weights for the Columbia County Board of Supervisors (each Hudson ward elects a supervisor to the board).

It is possible that they were done by the Columbia Board of Elections, which appears to conduct elections for Hudson as well as the towns in the county.

Or they might have been done by the City of Hudson, who would have had to then forward them to the BOE.

Following the 2000 census, the Hudson Common Council passed a resolution with their determination of the ward populations.  Hudson had not adjusted the voting weights since they were first used in 1974.  The council resolution may have been part of an effort to restart the process.

I have not found definitive evidence of a link between the ward populations in the resolution, and the voting weights used in the 2000s, but they are consistent with that being done.  Dr.Papa+ must have prepared a report.

The council resolution appears to have been based on the ward boundaries in the charter, which differ from those currently used for elections.
(1) The boundary between wards 3 and 5 is Columbia Turnpike in the charter, vs Columbia Street used for elections, shifting the triangle between the streets and the eastern city limits to Ward 3.
(2) The boundary between wards 4 and 5 is 5th Street (extended) in the charter.  In elections, the ward boundary takes a jog to the west on Prospect Street to Short Street, and then continues on out Harry Howard.  This shifts an area between 5th and Short Streets, as well as houses on the south side of Harry Howard just north of Underhill Pond from Ward 4 to Ward 5.
(3) The boundary between wards 3 and 5 in the charter cuts diagonally across Public Square (now 7th Street Park).  This area is unpopulated.

The Census Bureau permits state and local officials to define what are known as Voting Tabulation Districts (VTDs).  These are comprised of whole census blocks and are intended to assist states and localities in redistricting matters.

It would not surprise me if the New York legislature, a state demographic agency, or the NYSBOE ordered the county board of elections to cooperate with the Census Bureau in preparing VTD definitions.   

Typically, VTDs correspond to election precincts.  But in Hudson there are only 3 VTDs, one comprised of precincts 1-1, 2-1, and 4-1; one comprised of precincts 5-1 and 5-2; and one comprised of precincts 3-1 and 3-2 (the two precincts in Ward 3 must have been consolidated,  but two precincts are indicated by the VTD name of "Voting District 130301 130302".

The consolidations avoid the issue of splitting census blocks.  A VTD could be adjusted to avoid a split of a census block, in which case it does not accurately reflect the actual election precinct.  Or in this case, the VTD consolidates election precincts, making it unusable for calculating ward populations.  It might be used when drawing legislative or congressional districts, assuming that it was desirable to split a city of 8000 between two 700,000 population congressional districts.

Many states have a strong policy preference that election precincts do not split census blocks.  This permits legislative and congressional districts to be comprised of whole precincts and whole census blocks, so that their population can be determined directly from the census, and fragmentation of election precincts may be avoided.

In Hudson, the VTDs for Wards 3 and 5 correspond to the boundaries that elections are apparently conducted on (based on the Columbia BOE maps), rather than the ward boundaries specified in the city charter.  This was also true in 2000.

So at some time, the electoral practice diverged from the theory.  This may have been a deliberate policy choice,  Or it might be a clerical mistake.  For example, the BOE might have forwarded paper maps to the Census Bureau, which misread them, or made an adjustment.  The census bureau might have then returned a computer generated map, which the BOE then began to use.
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« Reply #109 on: October 20, 2014, 08:20:08 AM »
« Edited: October 20, 2014, 08:31:03 AM by Torie »


Jimtex, unless I am missing something, exclusive of the Front St block misallocation and perhaps what you call the Great Northern block allocation (not sure where you got the 32 number in that block that goes in Ward 2 (which is what I used in my chart), per you map earlier on in the thread), pursuant to the ward map being different than what the charter specifies, based on your chart in Reply # 107 above, the only population errors arising from that error appear to be that the 20 persons in block 4000, plus whatever number of persons lived in the houses depicted in the aerial below in block 1012 along Harry Howard Ave., need to be deducted from the 2,485 population of Ward 5 and added to Ward 4. Do you agree?



I am confused by your discussion about the Columbia Turnpike bit, since the map you drew seems to comport with what the charter specifies, so there is no population error involved given that the map is accurate. What am I missing there?

In other news, I am told that the  folks in block 1011 (the Crosswinds Apartments, population 59), vote in Ward 4 rather than Ward 5 for some reason, which would be yet another error. Fun stuff isn't it?


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« Reply #110 on: October 21, 2014, 03:45:06 AM »


Jimtex, unless I am missing something, exclusive of the Front St block misallocation and perhaps what you call the Great Northern block allocation (not sure where you got the 32 number in that block that goes in Ward 2 (which is what I used in my chart), per you map earlier on in the thread), pursuant to the ward map being different than what the charter specifies, based on your chart in Reply # 107 above, the only population errors arising from that error appear to be that the 20 persons in block 4000, plus whatever number of persons lived in the houses depicted in the aerial below in block 1012 along Harry Howard Ave., need to be deducted from the 2,485 population of Ward 5 and added to Ward 4. Do you agree?



I am confused by your discussion about the Columbia Turnpike bit, since the map you drew seems to comport with what the charter specifies, so there is no population error involved given that the map is accurate. What am I missing there?

In other news, I am told that the  folks in block 1011 (the Crosswinds Apartments, population 59), vote in Ward 4 rather than Ward 5 for some reason, which would be yet another error. Fun stuff isn't it?
Block 12/4000 is bounded by Washington, Short, Prospect, and 5th.   For some reason the jog back happens on Prospect, rather than Washington, even though Washington could be used and not split any blocks.

The southern tip of 12/1012 is a pseudo-block bounded  by Washington, Short, (Clinton), and 5th Street,  If you use Google Maps, it looks like Clinton goes through to the west of 5th Street, but it really doesn't.  I bet it shows up on plat maps and property maps, but there is no physical street there, other than a very short stub (50 feet or so).  It looks like there is some sort of easement, or perhaps a side dam or levee related to Underhill Pond.  You could quite likely walk through there.   That pseudo-block likely has a population similar to 12/4000.

There are also 2 or 3 houses on the north side of Clinton at 5th that are west of 5th Street (extended).

And as you note, there are the houses on the south side of Harry Howard north of Underhill Pond.

Based on the 2002 Common Council resolution, I needed an adjustment of 81 persons.   At that time the population of 12/4000 was 27 (note: block numbers changed between the 2000 and 2010 censuses).   It seems reasonable that the pseudo-block had a similar population.  Which would leave 27 persons along the south side of Harry Howard.  I think it is a reasonable inference that the resolution did match the charter.

The eastern boundary of 12/1012 is hard to see on satellite/aerial photography.  I think it is a footpath that goes to the school on Paddock Place, east of Harry Howard, and connects to 6th Street where it turns into Glenwood.   There would probably be safety issues of school children (middle school) using Harry Howard to get to school.  It is kind of odd that the Census Bureau picked it up as a block boundary (it was not used for the 2000 Census).

The Crosswinds Apartments, and what is now 12/1011 did not exist in 2000.  And the buildings outside the loop road are not in 12/1011, but are in 12/1012 along with the houses south of Harry Howard, the pseudo-block, the houses on the north side of Clinton between 5th and 6th street, and a house or two on the west side of 6th, north of Clinton.  (isn't census geography fun).

If the Crosswinds Apartments are voting in Ward 4, then it may be that when they were built, the clerks over at the Columbia Board of Elections decided that they were like those houses on the south side of Harry Howard.

If this is the case, then it would mean that the CBOE was honoring the city charter, but that their map is wrong, and then messed up when they did the Crosswinds Apartments.  I didn't see an address lookup on the website.

The charter would have the triangular area south of Columbia Street but north of Columbia Turnpike in Ward 5.  Based on the population in the 2011(?) Papa+ report it is included in Ward 3.   Based on the population in the 2002 council resolution, the triangle was included in Ward 5, which matches the charter.

The 2002 resolution implies a 225:137 split between Ward 2:Ward 1, which is very close to the number of buildings, and clearly not flipped, so I give the resolution quite a bit of credibility.

The weights were not updated after they were first set in 1974.  I don't know when the referendums on switching to equal-population wards were held; but someone along the way must have suggest that if we are going to keep using weighted voting, shouldn't the weights be updated,

It was some time after the census that weights were updated.  One advantage of weighted voting is that it does not require waiting for an election to make adjustments in the weights, since they are only used procedurally within the council.

I have not found a confirmed link between the 2002 council resolution and the voting weights used from 2004 or so.  Since Papa+ calculated the weights, he must have prepared a report.  He may have completely ignored the council resolution, or he may have used it.

For the 2010, we have Papa+ report, which states that they were what he used for calculating the weights, and that the populations are based on the prison-adjusted population, which they clearly are, and that they include adjustments for split blocks.   But those adjustments for the split blocks are clearly in error.  In addition, the populations do not appear to match the city charter boundaries between Wards 4 and 5, or  3 and 5.  But we don't know where the populations came from.

There is also uncertainty about how elections are actually administered.  It is conceivable that election precincts do not conform to ward boundaries.  Hudson has six election precincts (Ward 5 has two), but only 3 polling places.   Wards 1, 2, and 3 share a polling place; Ward 4 has its own; and the two precincts in Ward 5 share a polling place.  Since city elections are in odd years, it would not be out of the question to give voters the correct ballot for Ward 4, even if they were in the polling place for precincts 5-1 and 5-2.

PS the Census Bureau has the street addresses that correspond to the street segments that bound census blocks (and internal streets, such as Mill Street)
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« Reply #111 on: October 22, 2014, 09:15:07 AM »
« Edited: October 22, 2014, 09:38:56 AM by Torie »

How exactly does the confusion about the boundary between 3 and 5 generate a population error?

Oh, is it the issue that I marked out below with respect to the Columbia Turnpike versus Columbia St. issue?



In other news, I got some press about all of this. Attached to my letter were a lot of maps. Imagine that?  Tongue
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« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2014, 08:41:35 PM »

How exactly does the confusion about the boundary between 3 and 5 generate a population error?

Oh, is it the issue that I marked out below with respect to the Columbia Turnpike versus Columbia St. issue?



In other news, I got some press about all of this. Attached to my letter were a lot of maps. Imagine that?  Tongue
May 21, 2002 Common Council minutes, including resolution establishing populations of wards.

Map showing apparent derivation of common council ward populations.



The Census Bureau, in cooperation with local officials, delineates Voting Tabulation Districts (VTDs).  The Census Bureau requires VTDs to be comprised of whole Census Blocks, which are demarcated by physically visible features, typically streets and roads, and political boundaries.  Political boundaries include city boundaries, but do not include internal administrative boundaries such as ward and election precinct boundaries.  If the actual electoral boundaries do not follow street boundaries, then the VTDs will not conform to the election precincts.

There are three VTDs in Hudson, whose names are:

"130101 130201 130401"
"130301 130302"
"130501 130502"

The names indicate they correspond to:

Hudson ED 1-1, 2-1, and 4-1.
Hudson ED 3-1 and 3-2.
Hudson ED 5-1 and 5-2.

The initial 13 is an ID for Hudson; with each town (and city) in Columbia County having a numeric ID.  At one time, Ward 3 had two election precincts.

Thus Wards 1, 2, and 4 were combined in a single VTD, which avoided assigning the Front Street block 13/5002(2000), and the Great Northern block 12/1000(2000) to one or the other wards.  Note that the block numbers changed between the 2000 and 2010 censuses, and some boundaries were modified.  For example, the Front Street block did not extend as far north as it did in 2010, though the northern boundary is north of the apartments.

VTD "130301 130302" corresponds to Ward 3, except that the VTD boundary follows Columbia Street to the eastern edge of the city, rather than cutting further south along Columbia Turnpike, as specified in the charter.

VTD "130501 130502" corresponds to Ward 5, except the southern boundary with Ward 3 being wholly along Columbia Street, and the boundary with Ward 5, jogging back on Prospect to Short, and then on out Harry Howard, rather than following 5th Street extended, as specified in the charter.  This has the effect of moving Block 12/4002(2000), the Washington-5th-Prospect-Short square block, and 12/1006(2000), a block which in 2000 extended from Prospect between 5th and Short as far east as Paddock Place and Oakwood Blvd.

The same VTDs were delineated for both the 2000 and 2010 censuses.  Dr.Papa+ used the VTD populations for Wards 3 and 5, when calculating the weights for the common council, and also the Columbia Board of Supervisors.

I don't know who defined the VTDs.  It may have been the Columbia Board of Elections, perhaps acting on orders of the New York State Board of Elections (since VTDs are defined throughout New York, there must be a state policy of some sort).  The CBOE may have provided paper maps to the Census Bureau who the translated them into census geography, with some back and forth discussion between the Census Bureau and the CBOE, particularly regarding the split blocks.  This could have been done at a low level, since the CBOE doesn't really care one way or the other about VTDs.  The use of Columbia Street rather than Columbia Turnpike could of been a matter of carelessness.  The use of Harry Howard as the boundary was the only way to avoid splitting a census block.  That the jog back occurs at Prospect rather than Washington, may have been a map-reading problem, with someone thinking that the 5th-Washington-Short-Prospect block was actually the 5th-(Clinton)-Short-Washington pseudo-block.  It looks like a block, and I'm pretty sure the residents would consider it their block, but since Clinton does not go through, the Census Bureau doesn't consider it a block.

The VTD boundaries are those shown on election maps on the CBOE website.  Hudson election map, and were the basis of the populations used by Dr.Papa+ in calculating the current weights.

If someone lives on the south side of Harry Howard north of Underhill Pond, do they vote at the Hudson Central Fire Station, or at the Columbia County Office Building.

Now back to the 2002 Common Council resolution.

If we divide the population of VTD "130101 130201 130401" between blocks entirely in wards 1, 2 and 4, and the two split blocks we get:

Ward 1: 746
Ward 2: 1214
Ward 4: 497
Block 13/5002(2000) Front Street: 362.
Block 12/1000(2000) Great Northern 295.

To get Ward 1 to the resolution population of 883, we need to add 137 persons.  This implies that the Front Street block was divided Ward 1:Ward 2 :: 137:225, which almost perfectly matches the ratio of units south and north of the Warren Street walkway.

For Ward 2, adding 225 (Front Street allocation) to 1214 (whole blocks in Ward 2) we get 1439, which is 44 short of the resolution population of 1483.  This implies that the Great Northern block was divided Ward 2:Ward 4 :: 44:251.  This is quite plausible, since most of the Ward 2 component is along Mill Street, with a few houses along 2nd Street and Strawberry Alley.  The houses on the eastern end of Mill Street were built after 2000 (are these manufactured housing?).   Ward 4 includes housed on the east side of 3rd Street, north side of State Street, along Rope Alley east of 3rd Street, and along Carroll Street, Short Street, Harry Howard, and Lucille Drive.  It also includes the Firemen's Home (more on this below).

For Ward 4, adding 251 (Great Northern allocation) to 497 (whole blocks in Ward 4) we get 748, which is 81 short of the resolution population.  An explication of the 81 persons is below.

For Ward 3, the VTD population of 2005 is 48 greater than the resolution population of 1957.  The population of the triangular area between Columbia Street and Columbia Turnpike (blocks 13/2005(2000), 13/2006(2000), and 13/2007(2000)) has a population of 48.  We can therefore conclude that the council resolution honored the Columbia Turnpike boundary in the charter.

For Ward 5, adding 48 (Columbia triangle adjustment) to 2405 (VTD 5) we get 2453, which is 81 more than the council resolution population of 2372.  We therefore need to shift 81 persons from VTD 5 to Ward 4 (see above).

The charter specifies that the boundary between Wards 4 and 5 is 5th Street (extended).  The block bounded by Prospect-5th-Washington-Short 12/4002(2000) has 27 persons, and is west of 5th Street.  There is then the 12/1006(2000) which extends from Washington and Short to Oakwood Blvd and Paddock Place, which had a population of 174.  The portion within Ward 4 includes a pseudo-block bounded by Prospect-5th-(Clinton)-Short, which probably has around 27 persons, and the houses along the south side of Harry Howard north of Underhill Pond.  The Ward 5 portion of this large block includes houses on the north side of Clinton, north side of Glenwood/6th (where it switches is not clear), north side of Parkwood, and on around the corner on the west side of Oakwood and Paddock place.  A Ward 4:Ward 5 :: 54:120 allocation of this block is quite plausible.

Adding 27 (12/4002(2000) population) and 54 (12/1006(1000) allocation) to our previous subtotal of 748 for Ward 4, gives us the 829 persons specified in council resolution.

I am quite certain that the 2002 council resolution was based on the ward boundaries in the charter, and the allocation of the population in the three split blocks is quite plausible and correct.

More to follow...
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« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2014, 10:31:33 PM »

That is all fascinating and important, and will find its way to where it should go in due course, but as to my question?

Tonight, the legal committee of the Common Council decided to do a survey to determine the precise boundary between the 4th and 5th ward boundary vis a vis the extrapolation north of 5th St per the charter language. So there you go. You are making difference Jim, and real difference, with me as the messenger. I need to move on the 3rd-5th ward triangle thing, too, at this point, if based on fact. I think I figured out why it all happened, but that is just embroidery for this exercise.
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« Reply #114 on: October 23, 2014, 02:23:53 AM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 09:03:02 AM by jimrtex »

That is all fascinating and important, and will find its way to where it should go in due course, but as to my question?

Tonight, the legal committee of the Common Council decided to do a survey to determine the precise boundary between the 4th and 5th ward boundary vis a vis the extrapolation north of 5th St per the charter language. So there you go. You are making difference Jim, and real difference, with me as the messenger. I need to move on the 3rd-5th ward triangle thing, too, at this point, if based on fact. I think I figured out why it all happened, but that is just embroidery for this exercise.
To get to the Ward 3 population in the 2002 council resolution from 2000 VTD 3 population we need an adjustment of 48 persons, which happens to be the 2000 population of the three blocks in the Columbia triangle.

Dr.Papa+ used the VTD 3 and VTD 5 populations as is (with the prison adjustment) for his populations for Wards and Wards 5.  But we know that VTD 3 and VTD 5 do not correspond exactly with Wards 3 and Wards 5 in charter.  

In 2010, the population of the Columbia triangle, after the prison adjustment was 65.  If you are seeking a charter-based population, shift 65 persons from Ward 3 to Ward 5.

It appears that the practice at the CBOE is to use 5th Street extended as the boundary between wards 4 and 5, even though this does not match the maps on their web site, telling voters where their polling place is.



This is based on a 2001 satellite image (download a copy of Google Earth to be able to access old images).  It appears that the Ward 4/5 boundary is just to the east of the houses on the south side of Harry Howard.  Perhaps when the apartments were built (after 2000), a clerk at the CBOE remembered that the houses on the south side of Harry Howard were in Ward 4, but didn't realize why they were in Ward 4.  The clerk might have then simply applied a south of Harry Howard "rule" to residents of the apartments, even though they are to the east of the 5th Street extended line.

This 1891 atlas Hudson River Valley from New York City to Troy (section 27) shows the ward boundary right where I drew it.  Note where it intersects the road that became Harry Howard.

One of the best selling points for weighted voting in Hudson is that it permits use of ward boundaries that have been established for over 100 years.

The atlas does not show the Columbia Turnpike as the boundary between Wards 3 and 5, but it appears that the maps were hand colored.  The extensions of 3rd and 5th Street are printed on the map, so the coloring along Columbia Street may just be a mistake.

Of interest on the map is that Mill Street appears to connect with the road that became Harry Howard.  I had surmised as much based on what appears to be a tree cut, and the small segment of Mill Street at Harry Howard and Lucille Drive.  That was the reason I was searching for old maps, it was serendipity that I found an old map with ward boundaries.   USGS maps show that tree cut as "sled run".  As you know, Mill Street is quite a bit below the downtown area of Hudson, and may originally have been part of North Bay.  The path of Mill Street enters a ravine, which ends just before Harry Howard.   Perhaps you can go sledding this winter.

To get to the charter boundaries, the population of Block 12/4000(2010) of 20 persons needs to be shifted to Ward 4.  In addition, the population of 12/1012(2010) of 200 persons needs to be allocated between Wards 4 and Wards 5.

In Ward 4:

-- The pseudo-block bounded by 5th-(Clinton)-Short-Washington;

-- 1-1/2 houses on the north side of Clinton west of 5th street.

-- The houses on the south side of Harry Howard.

In 2000 this area had an estimated population of 54, and should be somewhat the same now.

In Ward 5:

-- Houses on north side of Clinton east of 5th Street to 6th Street and the house(es?) on the west side of 6th Street north of Clinton.   The eastern boundary of 12/1012(2010) is the footpath that goes north from 6th and Glenwood to the middle school.    This cuts off much of the 2000 population of 120 that was allocated to the Ward 5 portion of 12/1006(2000).

-- The apartments outside the loop (they are new for 2010).   Somewhat problematic is that the  apartments were completed just before 2010, they may not have been (fully) occupied before the April 2010 Census.

Note that the apartments inside the loop are in Block 12/1011(2010) with a census population of 59.  Based on the number of parking spaces, and the length of the roof lines, I estimate between 92 and 100 persons in the apartments outside the loop.

Of the area that had an estimated 120 persons in 2000, 88 are now in 12/1017(2010).  This would leave about 32 persons along the north side of Clinton.  With 15 or so houses, this sounds about right.  If we guess that the population in Ward 4, excluding the newly-built apartments, dropped from 54 to 50, then we have a split of

Ward 4 (pseudo-block plus houses on south side of Harry Howard) 50
Ward 5 (along Clinton): 32
Ward 5 (new apartments outside loop): 100.
Underhill Pond: 18 persons to make total of 200.

Apportioning the Underhill Pond population proportionately, we get
Ward 4:Ward 5 :: 55:145.

So add 75 persons (55 + 20 in 12/4000(2010)) to Ward 4.

Also the people in the apartments should be shifted into Ward 5 voting rolls, and it should be verified that the persons in the Columbia triangle vote in Ward 5, rather than Ward 3.

If the allocation of the Front Street block is corrected, and the allocation of the Great Northern block is verified to be based on reasonable assumptions, then you should have the correct populations for basing weighting on.
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« Reply #115 on: October 23, 2014, 09:30:09 AM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 10:08:51 AM by jimrtex »

Here are my estimates of the population.

Start with:

Population wholly in Ward 1: 463
Population wholly in Ward 2: 1204
Population of VTD 3: 1142
Population wholly in Ward 4 (excluding Short-Washington-6th-Prospect block): 455
Population of VTD 5: 2485
Front Street Block: 365
Great Northern Block: 289

All populations are prison-adjusted.

Then make the following adjustments:

Divide the Front Street block based on the same proportions as used in 2000.

Ward 1:Ward 2 :: 138:227

Assume that the Papa+ allocation is correct for Great Northern is correct.

Ward 2:Ward 4 :: 19:270

Shift 66 person in Columbia Triangle from Ward 3 to Ward 5.

Shift 25 persons in Short-Washington-6th-Prospect block from Ward 5 to Ward 4.

Shift estimated 50 persons in Short-(Clinton)-6th-Prospect block and houses south of Harry Howard from Ward 5 to Ward 4:

Ward 1: 463 + 138 = 601
Ward 2: 1204 + 227 + 19 = 1450
Ward 3: 1142 - 66 = 1076
Ward 4: 455 + 270 + 75 = 800
Ward 5: 2485 + 66 - 75 = 2476

We can then check whether the current voting weights adequately reflect the population.


Ward            Vote    Swing R.Pop.  R.Pow    Dev.  
Ward 1            95     128   9.39%  11.59%  23.52%
Ward 2           185     220  22.65%  19.93% -12.00%
Ward 3           180     188  16.80%  17.03%   1.34%
Ward 4            95     128  12.49%  11.59%  -7.20%
Ward 5           365     440  38.67%  39.86%   3.07%
President        190     260


The calculation of voting power is based on each alderman from a ward voting independently.  That is, the two aldermen from Ward 1 each cast 95 votes, and each is critical to 128 voting combinations.  For purposes of calculating voting power share, the voting power of the President is ignored.   This is consistent with redistricting litigation treating voting for at-large members independently from voting for district members.  Because I halved the number of votes and critical combinations for all wards, the relative voting power of a voter in each ward is correct.

For comparison here is the calculation that Dr.Papa+ used in analyzing the weights.   The weights and voting power are the same, the population share and deviation are naturally different.


Ward            Vote    Swing R.Pop.  R.Pow    Dev.  
Ward 1            95     128  12.03%  11.59%  -3.59%
Ward 2           185     220  20.01%  19.93%  -0.39%
Ward 3           180     188  17.84%  17.03%  -4.52%
Ward 4            95     128  11.32%  11.59%   2.40%
Ward 5           365     440  38.81%  39.86%   2.69%
President        190     260


Using the Papa+ populations, the absolute maximum relative deviation is 4.52%, the range of deviations 7.21%, the standard deviation 2.97%, and the population-weighted standard deviation 2.95%.

Using my population estimates, the absolute maximum relative deviation is 23.52%, the range of deviations 35.52%, the standard deviation 12.21%, and the population-weighted standard deviation 9.75%.  Clearly residents of Wards 2 and 4 have an equal protection claim.
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« Reply #116 on: October 23, 2014, 10:45:29 AM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 10:57:06 AM by jimrtex »

The 2002 Council Resolution expressed concern that Firemen's Home had been given a zero count, and that a challenge had been made with the Census Bureau.

I believe that the council concern was due to a misunderstanding the census geography.  There is a census block 12/1011(2000) on the north side of Harry Howard at the location of the Firemen's Home, which had a 2000 population of 0.   But the loop represents the driveway loop up to the Firemen's Home.



Rather than creating a census block to capture the Firemen's Home, the Census Bureau simply recognized a visible road.  The same phenomena happens in the cemetery in the southeast corner of the city.  There are lots of people there, but there is no one living there.

But the 2000 Census did show that of the 295 persons living in the Great Northern block 12/1000(2000), 83 were living in Group Quarter(nursing care facility), and 212 in housing units.   I presume that there are no other group quarters in the Great Northern block, and thus the population of the Firemen's Home was 83.

If I were allocating the population between Wards 2 and Wards 4, I would do it in proportion to the housing units.

If I though that the 295 population did not include the Firemen's Home, I would arrive at the allocation of 44:251 used in the Council Resolution.

If I realized that there were 212 persons in housing units, I would allocate that population on the same proportion of housing units, and get an allocation of 32:180.  I would then add in the Firemen's Home population of 83, to get a final allocation of 32:263.

This is only a small difference of 12 persons.  It is quite possible that the person who did the allocation did it correctly, and the message about the Firemen's Home got garbled before it found its way into the council resolution; or it is possible that they just concluded the Census Bureau had missed the population of the Firemen's Home.

The population calculations for the 2002 resolution were likely done by someone on the staff of the Hudson planning department (or maybe the Columbia County planning department).  They may still be working there.  Or they may be retired, or dead.  The motion to pass the 2002 resolution was made by Alderman Wurster.   Is he available?

Note that between the 2000 and 2010 censuses, the new building at the Firemen's Home closer to Harry Howard was built, and the building at the top of the loop demolished.  The loop has been reconfigured into driveways and parking lots, but the 2010 census still had it as a zero population census block.   The football shaped monument/memorial(?) just inside the top of the loop has been relocated to be in front of the still existing building to the west.  Is this the museum?

The 2000 location of the Firemen's Home was clearly in Ward 4.  The boundary probably now runs through the new building.  I would continue to consider the entire building to be in Ward 4.  I suspect that many of those living there are either not registered to vote, or continue to be registered at their former residence.
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« Reply #117 on: October 23, 2014, 11:37:38 AM »

The April 16, 2002 common council minutes include the report of the March 27, 2002 Legal Committee meeting.  The committee minutes state that Alderman Cross presented breakdowns and graphs of census data were distributed for the committee members to take home and study.  Is Alderman Cross around?  Are those materials filed somewhere?

The May 21, 2002 common council minutes include the report of the April 24, 2002 Legal Committee meeting.   Old business was: "Census, update weighted vote after adjusting overlapping wards."

The May 21, 2002 common council meeting also approved the resolution of the 2000 ward populations.

I would guess that the legal committee drafted the resolution, or agreed that the resolution should be drafted.  It is not clear whether council committees in Hudson have any direct legislative authority; or are more for the purpose of hashing things out, and making reports, with the making of resolutions entirely done before the whole council.

I would be quite interested in the documents from the March 27, 2002 and April 24, 2002 Legal Committee meetings.

I just came across something very interesting from later in the year, so am reviewing all the 2002 council minutes.
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« Reply #118 on: October 23, 2014, 12:38:57 PM »

The October 15, 2002 Common Council meeting minutes included the following iterm:

"On motion of Alderman Cross, seconded by Alderman Keith, the report of the
City’s weighted vote reapportionment was ordered received and referred to the Legal Committee."

Who was the report by?  Dr.Papa+?  The report must be in the city files.

November 19, 2002 Common Council meeting minutes included a report from the October 30, Legal Committee meeting that included the following item:

"Resolutions will be sent from the Legal Committee to the full Council regarding Weighted Vote Reapportionment in the city’s voting districts and a proposed City of Hudson Historic Preservation Ordinance. These topics were discussed at length with the committee members being in full support of both propositions."

The December 17, 2002 Common Council minutes include the following item:

"On motion of Alderman Wurster, seconded by Alderman Shook, the following proposed local law, introduced by Alderman Meyer and seconded by Alderman Wurster, was ordered placed on the aldermen’s desks as required by the Municipal Home Rule Law:
PROPOSED LOCAL LAWS INTRODUCTORY NO. 7, 2002
A LOCAL LAW AMENDING THE BOUNDARIES
OF WARDS IN THE CITY OF HUDSON
AND VOTING PROCEDURE OF THE COMMON COUNCIL"

The resolution provides for equal-population wards without weighting.  I think the "placed on the aldermen's desks ..." was a procedural matter, since any such change must be approved by the electorate.

Here are the proposed wards:



Pretty straightforward other than 40% of Ward 3's population being in prison.  Wards 1 and 4 are extended eastward.   Ward 3 nibbles at the southern edge of Ward 5.

Whoever prepared this map understood the problems of using 5th Street extended as a boundary, and avoid splitting census blocks by including a notch around the 5th-(Clinton)-Short-Washington pseudo block, keeping it in Ward 5, along with the areas north of Underhill Pond.
The boundary between Wards 3 and Wards 5 is quite notch-y and complex, apparently in an effort to balance populations. 

Equal-Population Resolution beginning at page 18 of PDF document., December 18, 2002

It is not clear where this originated from.  The Legal Committee had apparently been discussing adjusting the voting weights (which had never been adjusted after first being used in 1974).  Perhaps someone had decided to completely go away from weighted voting.  Alderman Meyer introduced the resolution.
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« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2014, 01:28:15 PM »

The January 13, 2003 (organizational meeting) minutes stated:

"The President stated that a vote on the proposed Charter amendments would take place shortly after January 22nd when a full Council should be in place."

The March 18, 2003 common council minutes include the (re)introduction of the equal-population ward resolution.  It appears to be the same as the December 2002 resolution.  Aldermen Cross and Nedwick introduced it.

The April 15, 2003 common council minutes included the approval of the charter change, with the referendum set for November 2003.

The referendum was quite equivocal failing on a 610:678 vote.

By precinct:

1-1 67:97
2-1 65:61
3-1 90:86
3-2 65:70
4-1 69:69
5-1 101:151
5-2 153:154.

The proposal was defeated by the No votes from precincts 1-1 and 5-1, even though they were only about 60% No.  Ward 1 would have been greatly expanded, with existing Ward 1 barely being a majority of the new ward.   Much of 5-1 in the regular street grid would have been moved into Ward 4.

The election was concurrent with the mayoral and president elections.

94.2% of voters cast a vote for mayor.
74.2% of voters cast a vote for president.
57.0% of voters voted in the equal population referendum.

The mayoral and presidential elections were partisan, though Mayor-elect Scalera was running on the Republican, Democratic, Independence, and Conservative lines.  His opponent Mussman ran on the Fair Deal line.

An Atlas map would show Ward 2 in red, Ward 1 in purple, and most of the remainder of the city in blue.
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« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2014, 02:00:02 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 02:14:04 PM by Torie »

Fantastic work Jim.  Thank  you so much. With your permission, I would like to attach as an exhibit to my next letter the pages of yours above starting with the old aerial of the Firemens’ Home. Is that OK? If so, should I use the screen name “Jimtex” or your real name when referencing your authorship?

That leaves us with just a few loose ends to tie up.





While the allocation of 19 persons to Ward 1 in the “Great Northern” census block used for the 2001 population calculations may have been reasonable for the 9 housing units located in the Mill Street area for the 2001 census count (the 44 figure that you derived from the ward census count in 2001 certainly would not be), it seems unlikely that the 19 figure would be a reasonable estimate for 2011, when there were 14 structures (with the 5 new ones having a fair number of children living in them (yes, they are some sort of subsidized housing).  The 32 figure which is on your map for the 2011 population count would seem more appropriate.  Where exactly did that figure come from again, along with the 292-73 split for the Front Street block (yes, I know you allocated yourself I think the 3 prisoners who were assigned to that census block)?



I accept your estimate of 55 for the "pseudo" block-Clinton Street-“east” of Howard Way, between that street and the pond area. I count 27 structures in that area, so it is a reasonable enough figure for now to use as an estimate.  That along with the transfer of the Columbia triangle to Ward 5 and the readjustment of the population allocations to the wards involved of the Front Street and Great Northern census blocks just about wraps up the population transfers (other than that I am going to use a population allocation of the Front Street block between wards 1 and 2 based on the relative apartment count, at least until such time as I know where the slightly different figures used in 2001 came from (if based on a bedroom count, than yes that would be superior, but if based on some actual headcount at the time, then it would not be) except for one thing.



While the Firemens’ Home was not bisected in 2001 by the 4th – 5th ward boundary, it is now. One structure was torn down, and two new ones built that are bisected it appears. So a survey will need to be done to those structures, and a population transfer made from the 4th ward to the 5th ward. I am told that its current population is 72, and was about the same in 2010, so an equal split of the 72 residents, would involve a transfer of 36 residents from the 4th ward to the 5th ward, both for population purposes and as voters.

 

Finally, the residents of the Crosswinds Apartments and the residents of two houses along Howard Way need to stop voting in the 4th ward as they are currently doing, and start voting in the 5th ward, along with their fellow Hudsonians living in the Columbia Triangle who are currently voting in the 3rd ward.  

So my population chart now looks as follows.  Let me know if you have any further comments. Thanks again Jim. I very much appreciate your efforts here. You have been utterly magnificent, and without you, much of this may have never been appropriately resolved. Now I am confident that it will be.






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« Reply #121 on: October 23, 2014, 06:29:54 PM »

Fantastic work Jim.  Thank  you so much. With your permission, I would like to attach as an exhibit to my next letter the pages of yours above starting with the old aerial of the Firemens’ Home. Is that OK? If so, should I use the screen name “Jimtex” or your real name when referencing your authorship?
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The spreadsheet that you posted from the Hofstra report had a 290:72 split for the Front Street block.  It was not prison-adjusted, so I allocated the three added prisoners 2:1, to come to a total 292:73.   Similarly the 257:32 for the Great Northern block are from the spreadsheet.  The spreadsheet is of dubious value, other than highlighting the two blocks that had their population reallocated.   The spreadsheet, like the Papa+ numbers use VTD 3 and VTD 5 as equivalent to Ward 3 and Ward 5, which they are not.   I should probably take the allocations off the map, and simply use the parentheses to indicate that the population for the entire split block must be allocated between wards.

I agree with you about the 44 from the 2000 Census for the Ward 2 population being dubious.  I get around 66 housing units for the Ward 4 portion of the Great Northern block, though some of the buildings on Carroll and Short streets may be commercial.

Sources of possible error:

-- The area between Robinson St and Strawberry Alley, east of 2nd Street is not in the Great Northern block, because Strawberry Alley connects to Robinson St at the east end, and form a separate census block (population 72 in 2000, 55 in 2010).  This area is in Ward 2, and could have erroneously increased the Ward 2 allocation if treated as being part of the Great Northern.

-- The area between State St and Rope Alley, east of 3rd Street is in the Great Northern block because Rope Alley dead ends and does not form a census block.  This area is Ward 4, and would have erroneously decreased the Ward 4 allocation if treated as being outside the Great Northern block.

-- The houses on the east side of 3rd Street north of State Street are in Ward 4, though on the boundary between wards.

-- The structure on the northwest corner of 3rd Street and Robinson St is in Ward 2 and the Great Northern block.  It looks like an old school building, but with no playground equipment.  It could have been converted to apartments?   What is the large long parking lot on the north side of Strawberry Alley used for?   If the building was converted to apartments, it could be used for those.  Or perhaps overflow parking for events downtown?   People could walk downtown, or perhaps use a shuttle.

-- Allocation error based on confusion about the Firemen's Home.  The proper allocation for Ward 2 should be its proportional share of the 212 persons in housing units, with the 83 persons in group quarters being placed in Ward 4.   This would reduce the 44 to 31.

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Conceivably, one could do a population allocation based on voter registration rolls.  This might provide a better population estimate since it would recognize a housing unit with a couple as having a greater population than a house with a widow.  It would be slightly biased towards families with children, but couples probably have more children than single parents.  It would treat households with no registrants as being vacant.  This might introduce a demographic bias.

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I think from a legal standpoint, you have to treat a building as being a point, and the question is where do you locate that point.   If it were me, I would simply change the definition of "5th Street (extended) to the city limits" to be "5th Street (extended) to Harry Howard, and thence northward along Harry Howard to the city limits."

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That is truly bizarre.  The house on the corner of Paddock and Harry Howard has its driveway on Harry Howard, but faces towards Paddock, so they vote in Ward 5.   But not their next door neighbors votes in Ward 4.  And the houses further out, across from the high school all face Harry Howard, but vote in Ward 5?

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The Great Northern block is 12-1000 rather than 12-2000.

The 32:257 split of 12-1000 comes from the spreadsheet from the Hofstra report.  Since that report did not have a prison adjustment (even though 12-1000 had a zero adjustment); they messed up the Hudson Terrace allocation; and did not split 12-1012; and had 12-4000 and the Columbia triangle in the wrong wards, I would give the 32:257 split zero credibility.

For the 2010 Census:

12-1000 head 289 persons, 204 in housing units, 85 in group quarters-nursing (ie the Firemen's home).   There were 102 housing units, 75 occupied and 27 vacant.  There were 58 children under 20, with a median age of around 9 or 10.

If we assume all the 2nd Ward units were occupied, then 14/75 of 204 is 38.08.   If we assume an equal distribution of vacant units then 14/102 of 204 is 28.00.

If your count/estimate of 14 housing units is correct, then the allocation is in the 28:261 to 38:251 range.   So maybe the Hofstra report was correct in this case.   But we'd be more consistent to have our own estimate for all split blocks.  We can at least document our methodology.

In 2010, 13-1002 had 362 persons, and LATFOR added 3 prisoners for a total population of 365.  None were in group quarters.  There were 167 housing units, so perhaps one unit is an office, or storage.  146 were occupied and 21 were not.  There were 159 children under 20, with a median age closer to 7 or 8 (ie lots of single moms).

I would not subdivide the Firemen's Home.  It seems too frivolous.
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« Reply #122 on: October 23, 2014, 07:43:57 PM »
« Edited: October 23, 2014, 07:47:23 PM by Torie »

OK I will use the midpoint between 28 and 38, or 33 for the 2nd ward's share of the Great Northern block. Actually I will not, but reference that in the cover letter. It is too difficult to rescan everything. 32 is close enough. The building at the corner of Robinson and 3rd is a school building, now owed by two gay lawyers, from the city, who rent it out to artists, and the auditorium for artistic and sometimes political events. (It is kind of nice for Dan and I to walk half a block to partake of it all, and invite folks we meet there over to our pad.) It is not, and never has been, residential.

The Firemens' Home has to be split, to get folks voting in the right ward in the next election. The population exercise as to it (or anything else for that matter) I doubt will happen unless 1) a referendum almost certain to be on the ballot next year doing away with all of this fails, 2) the probably ensuing lawsuit does not toss out the system (e.g., because the court rejects the idea that alderman voting randomly vis a vis each other is unreasonable to assume), but the court does order the narrower remedy of getting the populations right, along with legal weighted voting methodology,  In the event all of that happens, then the population exercise I think will become relevant from a legal standpoint. I view it as highly unlikely that all of the above described condition precedents will be met.

Oh, by the way, is the 85 number for nursing home living that you attribute to the Firemens' Home a census number from 2010? I ask, because the current population is 72. If it is from the census, where is the place that I can document that?

All the Harry Howard addresses on the east side of the street up to a bit north of the two houses that I depicted, vote in the 4th Ward, even though they should not along part of it under either the ordinance ward boundary language or even the map. It turns out that there are but two houses outside the Crosswinds Apartments to which this applies.
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« Reply #123 on: October 23, 2014, 09:22:31 PM »

The May 20, 2003 Common Council set the referendum for equal-population wards to November 3, 2003; and set the question to be asked:

"Should the City Charter be amended so that effective January 1, 2006, each Ward shall contain an equal number of citizens, and each member of the Common Council, including the President, have one vote on all matters before it?"

At the November 10, 2003 Common Council meeting, the purchase of the Dunn building northwest of Broad and Water.  It had some connection to a hazardous waste site, so you may not want to claim it.

After the referendum on equal-population wards was defeated in November, 2003, there was no discussion of the issue until 2004.   The November election also chose a new common council, so perhaps they waited until the members took office in January.

The January 28, 2004 report of the Legal Committee had this item:

"City Attorney Connor also stated that he was waiting on an opinion from the State’s Attorney General’s Office in regards to the reapportionment of the weighted vote."

The February 25, 2004 report of the Legal Committee had these items:

"City Attorney Connor briefed the committee on the following resolution designated polling places, city weighted vote, and the possession of alcoholic beverage in public places."

"The following resolutions were moved forward for full council review.

....

'On a motion by Alderman Shook seconded by Council President Vertetis a local law to amend the Hudson City Charter in relation to the weighted vote by members of the Common Council.

...."

At the March 16, 2004 Common Council meeting, a local law setting the the new weighted votes was introduced.   It would allow for an initiated (by petition) referendum, but apparently unlike the equal-population proposal, the referendum was not mandatory/

You will recall that the Common Council established the populations to be used for the wards based on the 2000 Census, in the spring of 2002.  Then late in 2002, the proposals for equal population wards began, continuing into Spring 2003.  The referendum was in November 2003, which appears to have delayed the implementation of weighting for two years.  My guess would be that the weights were calculated in 2002.  They may have then triggered discussion of the equal-population wards, which deferred the actual revision of the weights.

Since the voting weights had not been revised since first implemented in 1974, simply revising weights could not be considered just a routine technical matter.

The new weighted votes were approved by the Common Council on April 20, 2004.

There was an April 30, 2004 public hearing in the local law setting the weighted votes.  Since there was no public present, the hearing was adjourned after 10 minutes.
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« Reply #124 on: October 24, 2014, 04:58:53 AM »

OK I will use the midpoint between 28 and 38, or 33 for the 2nd ward's share of the Great Northern block. Actually I will not, but reference that in the cover letter. It is too difficult to rescan everything. 32 is close enough. The building at the corner of Robinson and 3rd is a school building, now owed by two gay lawyers, from the city, who rent it out to artists, and the auditorium for artistic and sometimes political events. (It is kind of nice for Dan and I to walk half a block to partake of it all, and invite folks we meet there over to our pad.) It is not, and never has been, residential.
The percentage of occupied housing units for 12-1000, 75 of 102, appears to be fairly low, so it must include a lot of units that could be rented but aren't, particularly along Carroll and perhaps State.  This would favor a higher figure for the detached houses on Mill Street in Ward 2,

The Firemens' Home has to be split, to get folks voting in the right ward in the next election. The population exercise as to it (or anything else for that matter) I doubt will happen unless 1) a referendum almost certain to be on the ballot next year doing away with all of this fails, 2) the probably ensuing lawsuit does not toss out the system (e.g., because the court rejects the idea that alderman voting randomly vis a vis each other is unreasonable to assume), but the court does order the narrower remedy of getting the populations right, along with legal weighted voting methodology,  In the event all of that happens, then the population exercise I think will become relevant from a legal standpoint. I view it as highly unlikely that all of the above described condition precedents will be met.
What about the houses on the north side of Clinton.  Most are east of 5th Street, but two are north of 5th Street, and one is to the west of 5th Street.

If my father lived at the Firemen's Home and moved rooms and had to switch wards, I'd sue the City of Hudson.  The Common Council could and should approve a resolution declaring the Firemen's Home to be entirely in the 4th Ward.

Oh, by the way, is the 85 number for nursing home living that you attribute to the Firemens' Home a census number from 2010? I ask, because the current population is 72. If it is from the census, where is the place that I can document that?
2010 Census Data, SF1 100%.  I used American Factfinder.

Tables QT-P11, QT-P13, H1, H10, P1

Of the 85 persons in Group Quarters in 12-1000, 72 are over 65, and 13 are between 18 and 64.  All 85 are in nursing facilities (group quarters also included places like prisons, college dorms, and military barracks).

I also looked up the data for 12-1011 (Tradewinds inner) and 12-1012 (split conglomerate).

12-1011 27 households in 27 housing units.
12-1012 87 households in 89 housing units.

(that is why the 75 households in 102 housing units for 12-1000 is comparatively low.

If there were a unit count for Tradewinds inside and Tradewinds outside the loop, we could estimate the Tradewinds population outside the loop, and subtract that from the 200 persons in 12-1012.   Then the Ward 4/Ward 5 split of the remainder could be estimated based on number of houses.

All the Harry Howard addresses on the east side of the street up to a bit north of the two houses that I depicted, vote in the 4th Ward, even though they should not along part of it under either the ordinance ward boundary language or even the map. It turns out that there are but two houses outside the Crosswinds Apartments to which this applies.
The area on Harry Howard was built out prior to 1994, the earliest imagery for the area on Google Earth.   But the road has been there since 1891, and might have been there since colonial times (how would Martin Van Buren gotten to and from the White House?).   The 5th ward was split off from the 4th ward between 1880 and 1890, so any farmers on the road would have been in the 4th ward at a time when the 5th ward would have been thought of mainly as the area east of 5th and north of Warren.
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