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Question: All right, folks, here it is.
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Union Convention: Governor Theodore Roosevelt of New York
 
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Union Convention: Fmr. Governor Hazen Pingree of Michigan
 
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Union Convention: Fmr. Governor William McKinley of Ohio
 
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Union Convention:  Fmr. Vice President Henry Adams of Massachusetts
 
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People's Alliance Convention: President Ignatius L. Donnelly of Dakota
 
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People's Alliance Convention: Senator William V. Allen of Nebraska
 
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People's Alliance Convention: Representative Wharton Barker of Pennsylvania
 
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People's Alliance Convention: Senator Thomas E. Watson of Georgia
 
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« on: May 18, 2014, 09:29:48 PM »
« edited: May 20, 2014, 07:49:24 PM by Senator Alfred F. Jones »

The Hour of the Common People

"We stand here at the first second of the first minute of a new hour in America's great day: the hour of the common people," declared President Ignatius Donnelly's (doesn't that just sound like heaven?) inaugural address, laying out his grand design for the future of his beloved nation. The uproarious People's Alliance, with new sweeping majorities in both houses of Congress, set out to work on the labors of the American people.

Although he had stayed ambivalent on the issue of the Cuban War, Donnelly declared in his State of the Union speech (in the form, as was tradition back then, of a strongly worded letter to Congress), that "the United States shall relieve the Cuban people of their Hispanic oppression." This major foreign policy issue, the dominating one of its time, would prove to be the President's greatest downfall as a coalition of peacenik Unionists with the majority of his own party, voted to remove US troops from Cuba. This vote was to be in vain, however, as only a month after Donnelly's inauguration the Spanish capitulated and Cuba was made free . Ever the expansionist, Donnelly negotiated a rather harsh treaty with the distraught empire to gain control of Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the Philippines. In a private conversation with Vice-President George (who would soon pass away, dashing his hopes for the Presidency) that was widely reported in the press, Donnelly stated that "that damn Atlantis has got to be around there somewhere!", and immediately sent the finest men of the US Navy to scour the Caribbean Sea in a search that has so far turned out to be fruitless.

On the economic front, the President has been more in line with his party and his supporters. Vice President George personally oversaw the passage of a federal bill to nationalize the railroad industry, remarking "I should like to die today, for I have achieved a happiness I doubt I shall further achieve in this office." Mustering up all his effort (so it seems), he passed away the next day. In one of the closest votes the Senate had seen, the 15th Amendment, establishing a constitutionally guaranteed income tax, earned a supermajority by only two votes. Though the amendment failed in the states, Donnelly was able to push through quite a few more populist pipe-dream bills: increased wages, the eight-hour day, and a slew of protections for unions.

Not all are happy with Donnelly's freedom-fest, however. Rising to challenge him within his own party (although most political observers agree they are vying for his now-vacant Vice Presidency) are several notable figures and former newspaperman Wharton Barker. Long-time Senator William V. Allen, Zebulon Vance's main primary opponent in 1892 and the biggest proponent of the eight-hour day movement, is duking it out with Georgia Senator Tom Watson, elected in the wave of 1896. The former has declared in a recent speech that "the programs of President Donnelly and the great People's Alliance should be extended beyond their current scope," while the latter has zeroed in on the issues of the rural poor and farmers with a direct anti-elitist message.

The Unionists are still reeling from their tragic loss, and Henry Adams hasn't gotten over it. Although most view him as an obscure has-been, described by one newspaper as "not half the man his father was nor a quarter of his grandfather", he is throwing his hat into the ring for what he declares will be his last time. The real showdown is between the reformist, "progressive" wing of the party, represented by the humorously-named Hazen Pingree and the bombastic Theodore Roosevelt, both who have done well to combat the influence of corporate trusts (though Pingree has since retired from the Governorship), and the conservative old guard, led by Ohio Governor and fierce Donnelly opponent William McKinley. McKinley is calling for "a reversal of the last ten years of non-Union rule and the twin tyrannies of Vance and Donnelly", whereas Pingree and Roosevelt have been referred to by certain elements of the party as "more of a purple shade than a blue one."

You have three days. The fate of America - nay, the world - is in your hands.
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2014, 10:22:42 PM »

I vote McKinley.

It's sad to see my good friend Dallas cease leading this series, although he did a fantastic job, and I'm confident that it will do well with good ol' Alfred.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 11:39:11 AM »

President Donnelly/Congressman Oscar Underwood
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 01:20:39 PM »

Donnelly/Barker.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 01:53:14 PM »

FWIW I voted for Donnelly, but will not make a VP endorsement unless it's a total tossup (BTW, I count "Donnelly/X" or "McKinley/X" statements more highly than votes for person X, though the latter are included).
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 03:01:23 PM »

I'm ready for Teddy!
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 03:19:45 PM »


This, though mostly because he's more electable than McKinley.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 03:37:45 PM »

Fixed that for you.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 03:41:18 PM »


Well, that too Wink
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 03:45:19 PM »

Donnelly vs. Roosevelt would truly be a showdown for the ages, but I'm not a huge fan of the two-party sytem. We'll probably need to introduce a Socialist Party to shake things up.
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 03:52:04 PM »

Donnelly vs. Roosevelt would truly be a showdown for the ages, but I'm not a huge fan of the two-party sytem. We'll probably need to introduce a Socialist Party to shake things up.

Your solution to the 2 party system is a 1 party system lol Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2014, 04:49:53 PM »

Donnelly vs. Roosevelt would truly be a showdown for the ages, but I'm not a huge fan of the two-party sytem. We'll probably need to introduce a Socialist Party to shake things up.

Your solution to the 2 party system is a 1 party system lol Tongue

My solution to everything is Eugene Debs. And in the original thing the Socialists didn't win an election until 1920, though they came close in 1912.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2014, 04:51:41 PM »

Adams
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2014, 07:34:56 PM »

I can't see the voting either, by the way, so I'm as excited as y'all are.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2014, 10:51:10 PM »

Who names their kid 'Ignatius'?
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2014, 12:51:24 AM »

TIL that my friend's parents are 19th century Catholics.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2014, 05:28:23 AM »

Who names their kid 'Ignatius'?

It seems to be an homage to Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits.
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2014, 10:27:24 AM »

Donnelly
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2014, 11:54:14 AM »

Donnelly vs. Roosevelt would truly be a showdown for the ages, but I'm not a huge fan of the two-party sytem. We'll probably need to introduce a Socialist Party to shake things up.

Seems a bit too early, I don't know that we're quite due for a new party (the Whigs just died).  Plus if Donnelly is re-elected and followed by someone like Underwood, Bryan, Allen, Boies, etc then I'd think the new party would be more likely to be a laissez-faire, corporatist party that is rather anti-semetic and nominally anti-immigrantation.  A cross between Mark Hanna and John Davis, perhaps.  Why would the Socialists be pissed with the current state of affairs?
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2014, 11:55:44 AM »

Donnelly's presidency seems to have defeated the purpose of having a Socialist Party.
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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2014, 11:59:39 AM »

Adams/Pingree
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2014, 12:06:43 PM »

I'm going to be completely original and say McKinley/Roosevelt.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2014, 04:58:08 PM »

Donnelly vs. Roosevelt would truly be a showdown for the ages, but I'm not a huge fan of the two-party sytem. We'll probably need to introduce a Socialist Party to shake things up.

Seems a bit too early, I don't know that we're quite due for a new party (the Whigs just died).  Plus if Donnelly is re-elected and followed by someone like Underwood, Bryan, Allen, Boies, etc then I'd think the new party would be more likely to be a laissez-faire, corporatist party that is rather anti-semetic and nominally anti-immigrantation.  A cross between Mark Hanna and John Davis, perhaps.  Why would the Socialists be pissed with the current state of affairs?

I see, I see. So you think this timeline would lead to some of the major Socialists being sidelined by a more left-wing Progrsesive Era (Donnelly, whoever comes after him, maybe Bryan and Roosevelt)?
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2014, 06:32:13 PM »

Donnelly's presidency seems to have defeated the purpose of having a Socialist Party.
^this, though I wouldn't mind a Socialist Party. A breakaway right-wing party (supporting a complete return to the gold standard, repealing the 16th Amendment and all Federal labor regulations, etc) would also be interesting.

Has the equivalent of the 17th Amendment been passed in this timeline? If not, the PA is in for a landslide congressional defeat, which will probably happen regardless, but will be especially bad if Senators are still chosen by State legislatures.

Anyway, as much as it pains me, I must vote McKinley.


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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2014, 07:42:13 PM »
« Edited: May 20, 2014, 07:57:39 PM by Senator Alfred F. Jones »

Has the equivalent of the 17th Amendment been passed in this timeline? If not, the PA is in for a landslide congressional defeat, which will probably happen regardless, but will be especially bad if Senators are still chosen by State legislatures.

I don't think so. I was debating having them pass the 16th or 17th  Amendment (although I'm sure both will get passed eventually) - I didn't want to have both for fear of being too dreamy. And yeah, the PA is almost certainly going to suffer some heavy losses this election. Apt followers will note that we are due to have four Presidents in 1901 (five if Pingree wins!), so the next term will be a roller coaster ride regardless of who wins.
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