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« on: May 19, 2014, 12:30:23 AM »

Let's imagine you're a judge. A case is before you of a man facing execution and who has been on death row for two years for a double homicide. The man actually was set to be executed already, but the execution failed because as a long time drug addict his veins had collapsed and it was not able at the time to find a suitable vein for lethal injection. As a result a very temporary stay was granted as part of a class action suit against the state's lethal injection statute. Another court has already ruled the state must make changes to its lethal injection procedure, but the state has managed to do so.

However in the meantime the man's defense team was able to come up with evidence pointing toward that some of the evidence used against him in his conviction was falsified and also some circumstantial evidence that the murders were actually committed by an associate of his who was killed in an unrelated incident five years ago. It is not concrete evidence of his innocence and if he was facing a life sentence would not be guarantee of instant release. However because of the time he has already spent on death row and since the issues surrounding the initial delaying of his execution have been resolved, you are under no obligation to grant a stay, nor would one under a strict interpretation of the law, which basically holds the issue of his guilt/innocence became moot on the date of his first attempted execution. Do you grant the stay?

Yes, this comes from a TV show. In it the judge basically said that while the evidence was there as it wasn't proof of his innocence you can't just bring it up 10 years later and the whole "the law is the law!" deal and refused the stay. However the defense team was able to obtain a stay after the prison's injection drugs were seized by the DEA following a tipoff from one that the prison wasn't properly transporting the drugs in accordance with federal law.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2014, 12:35:37 PM »

Haha I remember this episode, I think.  The Good Wife, is it?

Anyway, I take a strict interpretation of the law and refuse the stay.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2014, 12:39:02 AM »

Let's imagine you're a judge. A case is before you of a man facing execution and who has been on death row for two years for a double homicide. The man actually was set to be executed already, but the execution failed because as a long time drug addict his veins had collapsed and it was not able at the time to find a suitable vein for lethal injection. As a result a very temporary stay was granted as part of a class action suit against the state's lethal injection statute. Another court has already ruled the state must make changes to its lethal injection procedure, but the state has managed to do so.

However in the meantime the man's defense team was able to come up with evidence pointing toward that some of the evidence used against him in his conviction was falsified and also some circumstantial evidence that the murders were actually committed by an associate of his who was killed in an unrelated incident five years ago. It is not concrete evidence of his innocence and if he was facing a life sentence would not be guarantee of instant release. However because of the time he has already spent on death row and since the issues surrounding the initial delaying of his execution have been resolved, you are under no obligation to grant a stay, nor would one under a strict interpretation of the law, which basically holds the issue of his guilt/innocence became moot on the date of his first attempted execution. Do you grant the stay?

Yes, this comes from a TV show. In it the judge basically said that while the evidence was there as it wasn't proof of his innocence you can't just bring it up 10 years later and the whole "the law is the law!" deal and refused the stay. However the defense team was able to obtain a stay after the prison's injection drugs were seized by the DEA following a tipoff from one that the prison wasn't properly transporting the drugs in accordance with federal law.

I don't understand this point.   If the person is still alive and scheduled to be executed, their guilt is not a moot issue.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2014, 07:47:37 PM »

Retrial
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 06:58:13 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2014, 07:58:22 PM »

Depends ENTIRELY on the strength of the defense's evidence.
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2014, 01:21:14 PM »

Is there a statute of limitations on exculpatory evidence in a case of murder?

The court probably cannot vacate the sentence, but a State governor probably can ask for a stay. A retrial would be wise. The big issue is not whether lethal injection is a valid means of execution but instead whether the convict can be executed. If the state should find an acceptable alternative (let us say, long-drop hanging), then the condemned could still be executed.

But -- there is the issue of guilt or innocence. So figure that the condemned gets the choice either of a retrial in which a sentence of death is again possible, or a plea bargain to a lesser sentence.
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