Veterans Affairs Wait Times Scandal

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Before or after the ACA?

Before. And it didn't improve until the ACA was enacted.

[Frodo]

Before or after the ACA?

Before. And it didn't improve until the ACA was enacted.

Then you and I are in agreement -and it is well in our interest to have the ACA evolve into something resembling the Bismarck model so that we could avoid the pitfalls of either extreme. 

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Before or after the ACA?

Before. And it didn't improve until the ACA was enacted.

Then you and I are in agreement -and it is well in our interest to have the ACA evolve into something resembling the Bismarck model so that we could avoid the pitfalls of either extreme. 

I think it's pretty clear that single payer would be the best. Most of the world already has single payer, and they don't have people needlessly dying over lack of medical care.

[Frodo]

Before or after the ACA?

Before. And it didn't improve until the ACA was enacted.

Then you and I are in agreement -and it is well in our interest to have the ACA evolve into something resembling the Bismarck model so that we could avoid the pitfalls of either extreme. 

I think it's pretty clear that single payer would be the best. Most of the world already has single payer, and they don't have people needlessly dying over lack of medical care.

The unfortunates with Veterans Affairs and the Indian Health Service beg to differ. 

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The unfortunates with Veterans Affairs and the Indian Health Service beg to differ. 

Then how come other places with single payer aren't having this problem?

[Frodo]

The unfortunates with Veterans Affairs and the Indian Health Service beg to differ.  

Then how come other places with single payer aren't having this problem?

I don't know -but given these two examples, I don't trust government to create a purely government-run single-payer system that avoids these problems.  Especially ours.  I don't trust private industry entirely either, which is why I favor an approach that balances out the two.  It seems to have worked well in Germany and Switzerland.    

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I thought it's been common knowledge for decades that the VA sucks?

Actually VA health care has a reputation for being high quality, but that getting access to it can be a royal pain in the butt.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I thought it's been common knowledge for decades that the VA sucks?

Actually VA health care has a reputation for being high quality, but that getting access to it can be a royal pain in the butt.

The vets in Pittsburgh don't say that.

[King]

I thought it's been common knowledge for decades that the VA sucks?

Actually VA health care has a reputation for being high quality, but that getting access to it can be a royal pain in the butt.

The vets in Pittsburgh don't say that.

Yeah they don't say that here either.

[Maxwell]

Shinseki resigns

[Tender Branson]

Certainly makes it harder for Democrats to "win" in November, or better said to keep the Senate.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Certainly makes it harder for Democrats to "win" in November, or better said to keep the Senate.

From the polling numbers so far, it doesn't seem so.

[BaconBacon96]

I wonder how this will affect the Congressional races. Are there any states with particularly high veteran populations?

[Frodo]

I wonder how this will affect the Congressional races. Are there any states with particularly high veteran populations?

In the South you mean, where we are most vulnerable?  Besides the biggies (Texas and Florida), Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia also come to mind.      

[BaconBacon96]

I wonder how this will affect the Congressional races. Are there any states with particularly high veteran populations?

In the South you mean, where we are most vulnerable?  Besides the biggies (Texas and Florida), Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia also come to mind.      

So this could be dangerous for Kay Hagan in particular?

[Frodo]

I wonder how this will affect the Congressional races. Are there any states with particularly high veteran populations?

In the South you mean, where we are most vulnerable?  Besides the biggies (Texas and Florida), Virginia, North Carolina, and Georgia also come to mind.      

So this could be dangerous for Kay Hagan in particular?

As well as Jason Carter and Michelle Nunn if Republicans succeed in portraying this as a primarily Democratic scandal. 

[Lincoln Republican]

Shinseki resigns

It's about time.

If he hadn't resigned, Obama would have had no option but to fire him.

I am sure that Obama gave Shinseki the option of either resigning or being fired.

[greenforest32]

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/05/health-care-scandal-thats-way-bigger-va

[Frodo]

Many Veterans Praise Care, but All Hate the Wait

By ABBY GOODNOUGH
MAY 31, 2014

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