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« on: May 20, 2014, 03:32:29 PM »

This amendment is to correct the amendment we passed earlier, which attempted to reference the Senate's authority over executive departments in an indirect and vague way.  The language of Article 1, Section 5, Clause 28 does not apply to departments already existing in any clear way, so this amendment is to say just what the extent of the Senate's authority is over this area. 
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 05:44:45 PM »

This amendment is to correct the amendment we passed earlier, which attempted to reference the Senate's authority over executive departments in an indirect and vague way.  The language of Article 1, Section 5, Clause 28 does not apply to departments already existing in any clear way, so this amendment is to say just what the extent of the Senate's authority is over this area. 

Creation authority= absolute authority over said entity. The power to create is the power to likewise alter or destroy.

Article 1, Section 5, clause 28 thus applies to all Departments save for where the Constitution  itself creates them (Article VIII prior to the amendment a couple weeks back).

Interesting theory, but there's nothing in the Constitution itself to indicate that.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 06:02:06 PM »

I'm not sure whether that is accurate but in any case how many people are familiar with that Supreme Court precedent?  Were the people who voted for this amendment aware of it and that they were giving the Senate authority to do away with any department listed in the Constitution?   How does it make sense for a department to be listed in the Constitution if they can be removed at any time?  Can't precedent be reversed?  If nothing else we should remove these departments from the Constitution.
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2014, 07:49:54 PM »

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