Gunman near UCSB kills 6 people, injures 7

[MaxQue]

2) Violent computer games
3) Action movies

There has been many silly comments in that thread, but that one is the most ridiculous.
No effect has never been proven, most people playing/watching them had no issue.

And let's not act like violence is new. It's just than before, those violent people were sent to war (and we were very satisfied than they inflicted their sadism on opponents). Atrocities, abuses and other horrible actions against civilians were common, then. It's the same psychopaths that are doing shootings today. Nothing of that is new (what's new is us caring about it).

Anders Behring Breivik was 100% a product of a gun game combined with insane political ideologies found on the internet. Story untold. There's nothing more to say basically. Or do you feel you have more to add? Or you feel you know him better than me who's lived through his tragic sh**t for the past 1000 days or even more? YES, he did affect my life and greatly...needless to say for the very negative...

Video games + political ideology can't lead to that alone. A strong emotionnal dissociation and a lack of compassion is needed too. Video games are just an easy boogeyman.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Call of Duty: Ghosts has sold over $1B worldwide. Grand Theft Auto 5 has likewise done over $1B in business. These games are popular in all areas of the world. And yet, these kind of mass shootings only seem to happen here in this country.

It still ain't the video games, Mr. Lieberman.

[dead0man]

I didn't think otherwise smart people (which is my impression of eric82) still thought violent games/movies/books result in more real world violence.

[illegaloperation]

It's unfortunate that 4 people that I knew lost their lives this weekend: two friends and two classmates.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Right, the gun humpers need to have their deadly weapons. Can't inject some sense into matters, even after even more people get murdered in cold blood. Their Second Amendment fundamentalist ideology is more important than the right for people to live their lives without getting shot by some coward.

Honestly, I think in this particular case I'm more inclined to lay blame at the feet of the toxic MRA/PUA "culture" than guns.

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Also, a friend of mine wrote this really powerful reaction in the Daily Beast that everyone ought to read.  Kind of long, and maybe you don't think you care about the main thesis of the article (which, roughly, is that the f**ked-up portrayal of women as "prizes" in nerd culture, well, f**ks us all up), but, please, read it anyway.

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I guess I expect the reaction from most quarters here to be dismissive and disappointing, but whatever.  Sometimes sh*t just needs to be said anyway.

Thanks, that was a really powerful piece. And yes, it's easy to blame this tragedy on mental illness, but culture does have a lot to do with it, as does the fact that Rodgers' attitude toward women has never been subject to reprobation/sanction.

[MATTROSE94]

Well, I'm official.  Gun ownership should be banned.  Completely.  I'm done.  I don't care about hunting and home defense excuses anymore.  Go to ShopRite and buy an alarm.  Just ban the things.

That's a bit excessive. A more sensible solution would be to limit clip sizes and ban all gun sales to convicted felons, people with mental health issues and people under 25.

[Hatman 🍁]

Nothing excessive about wanting to ban guns. Plenty of countries do it.

[windjammer]

There's nobody in New York City who needs a gun

Should citizens not have the right to fight the brutal, racist NYPD?

What is NYPD??

[Cassius]

There's nobody in New York City who needs a gun

Should citizens not have the right to fight the brutal, racist NYPD?

What is NYPD??

New York Police Department.

[Antonio the Sixth]

There's nobody in New York City who needs a gun

Should citizens not have the right to fight the brutal, racist NYPD?

What is NYPD??

Come on, you surely know what NYPD is...

[Donerail]

There's nobody in New York City who needs a gun

Should citizens not have the right to fight the brutal, racist NYPD?

What is NYPD??

[Marokai Backbeat]

It still ain't the video games, Mr. Lieberman.

How ridiculous that GTA 5 could inspire things like this, right?

Now, Revenge of the Nerds on the other hand..

[All Along The Watchtower]

Article in The Nation from two days ago:

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http://www.thenation.com/article/180077/yesallwomen-changes-story-isla-vista-massacre#

[publicunofficial]

Another shooting just happened at Seattle Pacific University. 1 man is dead, 3 are injured.

[Hatman 🍁]

Another shooting just happened at Seattle Pacific University. 1 man is dead, 3 are injured.

You know, there was kind of a bigger shooting today, involving five police officers.

[publicunofficial]

Another shooting just happened at Seattle Pacific University. 1 man is dead, 3 are injured.

You know, there was kind of a bigger shooting today, involving five police officers.

Sorry, hadn't heard about it.