SENATE BILL: Ukrainian Technical, Economical and Military Aid (Debating)

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Yeah, we have no business requiring this out of them regardless of how we feel about their beliefs. It's like having another country ask us to ban all the far-left people from our government for espousing communistic views. No bueno. Even I'd step in and defend the communists.

[TNF]

This is just an absurd. We cannot require them to ban the "Right Sector". We can ask them not to include their leaders in government roles but we cannot ask them to destroy an organization.

We did it during the Cold War, as a condition of Marshall Plan aid.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I'd be fine with banning the Right Sector and all that jazz, but I don't want to cut the military aid or reduce the overall package. Perhaps I shall introduce an amendment to that effect in the future...

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I'd be fine with banning the Right Sector and all that jazz, but I don't want to cut the military aid or reduce the overall package. Perhaps I shall introduce an amendment to that effect in the future...

I have pretty much the reverse problem with this.

Nay.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nay ftr

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This has been over for about five hours now I think.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

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[TNF]

That looks good, Shua.

[Lumine]

And I will declare it hostile. I insist that we need the military aid, and I don't see the point of cutting the economical aid in half. Furthermore, why getting rid of Sections 2.1.2 and Section 5?

[Cincinnatus]

Vote on amendment 61:44 by TNF:

Aye (2): TNF, bore
Nay (7): Goldwater, Alfred, Lumine, Tyrion, DC, shua, and Yankee
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Griffin

The amendment fails.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

And I will declare it hostile. I insist that we need the military aid, and I don't see the point of cutting the economical aid in half. Furthermore, why getting rid of Sections 2.1.2 and Section 5?

The aid will be given to Atlasian and NGO development agencies, not to the Ukrainian government, which has a history of corruption issues.

[Cincinnatus]

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Feedback: Hostile
Status: A vote is now open on the aforementioned amendment.  Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[TNF]

AYE

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

AYE

[TNF]

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[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Let's just makes sure we don't get confused about what amendment we are voting on here.

[Lumine]

Nay, and the next amendment is hostile as well.

[bore]

Aye

[DC Al Fine]

This is just an absurd. We cannot require them to ban the "Right Sector". We can ask them not to include their leaders in government roles but we cannot ask them to destroy an organization.

We did it during the Cold War

We also persecuted communists

Aye on the amendment

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Nay.

[Goldwater]

NAY

[TNF]

NAY

How nice of you to actually join us, Senator.

[Sec. of State Superique]

This is just an absurd. We cannot require them to ban the "Right Sector". We can ask them not to include their leaders in government roles but we cannot ask them to destroy an organization.

We did it during the Cold War, as a condition of Marshall Plan aid.

I'm not in the Cold War anymore....

[TNF]

This is just an absurd. We cannot require them to ban the "Right Sector". We can ask them not to include their leaders in government roles but we cannot ask them to destroy an organization.

We did it during the Cold War, as a condition of Marshall Plan aid.

I'm not in the Cold War anymore....

Better give Lumine the heads up on that one.

[Lumine]

This is just an absurd. We cannot require them to ban the "Right Sector". We can ask them not to include their leaders in government roles but we cannot ask them to destroy an organization.

We did it during the Cold War, as a condition of Marshall Plan aid.

I'm not in the Cold War anymore....

Better give Lumine the heads up on that one.

Hey, I'm not the one advocating for the ideology who lost, xD