SENATE BILL: Ukrainian Technical, Economical and Military Aid (Debating)
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« Reply #225 on: July 21, 2014, 08:19:59 PM »

Mr. Vice-President, I ask for a final vote!
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« Reply #226 on: July 21, 2014, 09:38:55 PM »

I thank the Secretary for his words, hopefully we will be able to get this passed after almost two months of debate. (Curious, I could have swear the President had posted something as well)
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« Reply #227 on: July 22, 2014, 02:07:46 AM »


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Senators,
A final vote is now open.
Please, vote AYE, NAY or Abstain.
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« Reply #228 on: July 22, 2014, 02:08:29 AM »

Aye.
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« Reply #229 on: July 22, 2014, 09:02:31 AM »

NAY
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« Reply #230 on: July 22, 2014, 11:48:06 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #231 on: July 22, 2014, 11:48:12 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #232 on: July 22, 2014, 02:45:41 PM »

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« Reply #233 on: July 22, 2014, 04:11:35 PM »

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« Reply #234 on: July 22, 2014, 06:49:49 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #235 on: July 22, 2014, 10:16:00 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #236 on: July 23, 2014, 02:19:59 AM »

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« Reply #237 on: July 23, 2014, 08:07:14 AM »

This has enough votes to pass.
Senators, you have 24 hours to change your vote.
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« Reply #238 on: July 23, 2014, 09:41:29 AM »
« Edited: July 23, 2014, 10:18:00 AM by DemPGH, President »

Okay, I'll support this although I am dubious. As long as it is economic and environmental, I really see no harm. I want no hardware or arms going in there, though, so I'll read the language closely before signing. Also, I'd like a quicker return time on the loan, so if there will be no objections I will likely tweak that and offer it as a re-draft.

Of the top 100 things to spend money on, this is #93 or so in my book, but everyone wants it, so ye shall get it. Tongue  
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« Reply #239 on: July 24, 2014, 08:55:58 AM »

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The results of the vote:
Aye (7): Senator Lumine, Senator North Carolina Yankee, Senator bore, Senator Goldwater, Senator Griffin,  Senator Alfred F. Jones, Senator Tyrion
Nay (2): Senator TNF, Senator DC
Non Voting (1): Senator shua

This bill passes.
I, Windjammer, president of the senate, certify these results are accurate.



Senator shua,
You have until July 27, 2014, 02:07:46 am to vote if you want your vote to be counted in my Windjammer senate ratings.
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« Reply #240 on: July 24, 2014, 08:58:01 AM »

This bill is now sent to the president.
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« Reply #241 on: July 24, 2014, 10:53:18 AM »

Excellent! I wish to thank the Senate and specially the Labor Senators for their support on passing this bill.
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« Reply #242 on: July 25, 2014, 10:12:26 AM »

I've tweaked section 4.2, and I'll just stop there. If I get into anything else I'll change the thing too much and end up gutting it, probably.

I can understand this, really, even if it goes against by better judgment, and I don't see that it will do any real harm, honestly. Like I said, I'd rather not, but if we're to spend money overseas, there could be worse ways - as with Iraq.

This is a redraft, technically.

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« Reply #243 on: July 25, 2014, 10:25:56 PM »

Well, I thank the President for his measured redraft, and I will certainly support it.
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« Reply #244 on: July 26, 2014, 02:00:17 AM »

So the sponsor is friendly
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« Reply #245 on: July 26, 2014, 02:02:55 AM »


Well, it's not an amendment but a redraft, so the sponsor can either choose to start a vote or scrap the bill. Interestingly, this is the time where approving of an "amendment" (even if it's not) triggers a vote.  
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« Reply #246 on: July 26, 2014, 02:07:53 AM »

Senator Tyrion, don't worry, I know. That's why I haven't said "senators have 24 hours to object".

I just wanted to make this statement, in order to help the senators to be against or in favor of this redraft, by telling them that the sponsor is friendly to this!
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« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2014, 07:04:37 AM »

The process differs but in some ways it is still a question of friendly versus hostile intent and the sponsor is judging whether or not it is more hostile to his intended goal with a bill as redrafted as opposed to no bill at all. Wink

I support the redraft as well.
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« Reply #248 on: July 30, 2014, 10:24:56 AM »

Let's not forget about this one! I did momentarily and then remembered that we have to act on it.
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« Reply #249 on: July 30, 2014, 11:42:31 PM »

Indeed, is there any chance we could see a vote opened on the redraft soon or are we waiting on the rest of the Senators?
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