SENATE BILL: The Bicameral Birthing Amendment of 2014 (sent to the Regions?)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What are all the available alternatives then to Party List? We might want to cosnider polling them as well.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

2 Individual races in each region with one at-large

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

2 Individual races in each region with one at-large

Could you explain that option in more detail and you are just discussing the House portion of this correct?

[bore]

Presumably JCL means that each region has 2 separate regionwide elections and there is one nationwide election by either STV or FPTP.

Personally I think that districts could be fun, especially if they were FPTP, but that would require limiting regional moves (IIRC that amendment passed the senate, so it would just need to be ratified by more regions).

Although, as I said before, I'll support anything that makes this amendment easier to pass.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well there we go again, we already failed once with the state moves thing did we not? Is there any path that doesn't run into that same kind of or similar resistnace?

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Presumably JCL means that each region has 2 separate regionwide elections and there is one nationwide election by either STV or FPTP.

Personally I think that districts could be fun, especially if they were FPTP, but that would require limiting regional moves (IIRC that amendment passed the senate, so it would just need to be ratified by more regions).

Although, as I said before, I'll support anything that makes this amendment easier to pass.

Two separate region wide FPTP with the possibly of run offs and one nationwide FPTP race with the possibility of a runoff. Bore pretty much got it right.

[President Tyrion]

Well there we go again, we already failed once with the state moves thing did we not? Is there any path that doesn't run into that same kind of or similar resistnace?

I think the resistance might go down a bit if the idea was to implement districts.

[windjammer]

Well,
If there is a 2nd chamber, I guess they could elect their own speaker?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well,
If there is a 2nd chamber, I guess they could elect their own speaker?

Of course. What would a House be without a speaker?

[bore]

If we're doing districts we have to change state moves. There is no other option.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

The intent is to not divide the regions into districts. All citizens within each region will get to vote on both assembly races.

 

If we're doing districts we have to change state moves. There is no other option.

[bore]

The intent is to not divide the regions into districts. All citizens within each region will get to vote on both assembly races.

 

If we're doing districts we have to change state moves. There is no other option.

Sure, I know that that wouldn't need to be changed for your proposed system (though it still should be, IMO) but for a district system it would be.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I have qualms about such a system that basically creates a system that duplicates the constituencies of the upper chamber. The interests should differ, even if slighlty so that the interests will check each other.

[windjammer]

Well,
If there is a 2nd chamber, I guess they could elect their own speaker?

Of course. What would a House be without a speaker?

Well, if this amendment passes. I think I know what my political future risks to be .

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

You all are overthinking this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well,
If there is a 2nd chamber, I guess they could elect their own speaker?

Of course. What would a House be without a speaker?

Well, if this amendment passes. I think I know what my political future risks to be .

Well that also brings up the need for the VP to be more of a liason between the two chambers as well.

[windjammer]

Well,
If there is a 2nd chamber, I guess they could elect their own speaker?

Of course. What would a House be without a speaker?

Well, if this amendment passes. I think I know what my political future risks to be .

Well that also brings up the need for the VP to be more of a liason between the two chambers as well.

Oh, don't worry Yankee, I have already imagined what the house rules and the senate rules changes would be .

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well,
If there is a 2nd chamber, I guess they could elect their own speaker?

Of course. What would a House be without a speaker?

Well, if this amendment passes. I think I know what my political future risks to be .

Well that also brings up the need for the VP to be more of a liason between the two chambers as well.

Oh, don't worry Yankee, I have already imagined what the house rules and the senate rules changes would be .

I have tried to avoid thinking about it myself. Just getting there is complex enough.

[windjammer]

Well,
If there is a 2nd chamber, I guess they could elect their own speaker?

Of course. What would a House be without a speaker?

Well, if this amendment passes. I think I know what my political future risks to be .

Well that also brings up the need for the VP to be more of a liason between the two chambers as well.

Oh, don't worry Yankee, I have already imagined what the house rules and the senate rules changes would be .

I have tried to avoid thinking about it myself. Just getting there is complex enough.

In fact, not really difficult.
I will get back to you later by PM about my ideas . I go to bed!

[Adam Griffin]

Any chance we can bullet-point the recent developments? Sorry for being away lately. I see no new amendments have been adopted as of yet.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

A poll revealed 70% opposition to Party Lists of any kind in the general public.


Don't blame me I voted for the open list option.

[President Tyrion]

Since we haven't changed the text in 5 pages and like a month, here's a big change. I'm reverting the party list wording, and I made a few changes.

Please check my work.

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2. Article 1, Section 4 of the Third Constitution of Atlasia is amended to read:

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Section 3: The Addition of the House

1. Article 1, Section 8 of the Third Constitution shall be entitled “The House” and shall read:
   

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Section 4: House Districts and Elections

1. Article 1, Section 9 of the Third Constitution shall be entitled “Elections to the House” and shall read:

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[windjammer]

Senator Griffin, are you friendly or hostile to Senator Tyrion's amendment?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

My original plan is the best and most reasonable framework that can actually be implemented. It always has been, as it is simple, easy to understand, and timeless, much like my warm gaze.

I hope this dilly dally over party lists ends soon because it's pretty clear that has almost no chance of passing. We'd just be wasting our time.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Nor is consolidating to three regions.