The Federalist Party: June 2014 Convention (LEADERSHIP DECLARATIONS!)

[tmthforu94]

As a former President and Federalist Chairman, I urge the party to endorse neither of these tickets.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Well, I'll be writing in myself and then second-preferencing DemPGH. If anyone wants to join this sinking ship, you're more than welcome.

[Adam Griffin]

Governor Riley Keaton takes to the microphone

Lablr

Is this a new dating app for socialists?

[sentinel]

Federalists -

Given the permission of your Chairman, I will be addressing the Federalist convention tomorrow morning.

Also, Dallasfan65 has responded in our thread to some of the claims made against us in this thread if you'd like to see it. We had hoped that our opponents would give you the same respect that many gave the Labor, TPP, and Democratic Republican conventions.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164259.msg4193658#msg4193658

Best

SirNick

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

I announced my endorsement of the DemPGH/windjammer ticket a couple weeks ago and I stand by that endorsement, and thus encourage my party to follow suit.  However, given that my reasons for supporting them are probably different from those of most Federalists, I will abstain from giving a speech.

[TJ in Oregon]

I don't believe the Federalist Party should make a presidential endorsement. Each member should vote how he sees fit.

[sentinel]

Friends -

With the blessing of Chairman North Carolina Yankee, we have decided to address the Federalist convention to accept Senator Lumine's nomination of our ticket for consideration of your party's endorsement.

For those of you who don't already know me, I have received the Federalist Party endorsement before. Without going back into the trenches of the archives of Atlasia, I was endorsed for a second term as Governor of the Northeast by the Federalists, and in addition possibly while running for Northeast Assembly.

I appointed now Federalist Senator Goldwater as my Lieutenant Governor during my time as Governor. I championed his Free Enterprise Zones Act --which is now law. The bill sought to it ease regulations for businesses in order to do what they do best in cities all around the Northeast. In addition, I vetoed the Private Sector Job Tenure Act because I thought it would hurt businesses' and I've openly spoken out against Senator TNF's Codetermination Bill.

During my time in the Northeast Assembly I was a bit of a stickler for quality legislation. I still am. If bills did not explain how they were funded, I was likely to vote against it. As Governor, I was fiscally responsible. I passed two budgets. Both kept a surplus. Both invested in infrastructure. Both lowered taxes across the board. We halved the sales tax, and lowered taxes on all income levels.

We also expanded education in the Northeast. Every Northeast resident can now go to college or university for free. I realize this isn't something you would normally bring up to the Federalists, but I am because here's the kicker. The GM report came back and said it was cheaper than the programs the Northeast was using to subsidize college and university education.

Dallasfan and I have both worked across the aisle. We believe that progress is made when we try to involve everyone. People want to be part of the solution, you just have to ask them. Many of you are familiar with Dallasfan due to his long service in Atlasia. He's served as Governor of the Northeast, Chief Judicial Officer, Senator from the Northeast, Senator-at-large and Vice President --to name a few.

Dallasfan has championed transparency in government. I supported his bill to have police officers wear small cameras on their uniforms. This law not only protected police officers, but it protects citizens by establishing more accountability. And like myself, Dallasfan in his most recent budget lowered taxes again while keeping a surplus.

What I like most about Dallasfan is that, like myself, he is not on ideologue. He has ideas he wants to pursue, but when he sees that it doesn't work, he is not going to push it. We have both said before --if a GM report comes back, and its going to affect people negatively, then we're not going to pursue it. We are realistic and flexible when it comes to public policy. Being flexible doesn't mean we won't fight for our goals --of course we will, but we know when its time to compromise. 

There were some attacks on Dallasfan in this thread by our opponent, and they were unwarranted. The frankly, disgusting, accusations made would never happen under my Administration.

I spoke with one member of the Federalist Party recently who was against single-payer health insurance. Dallasfan and I both support a better health system for Atlasia, and we think single-payer would be the most effective. This member of the Federalist Party did not, support single payer. He did not believe it would work. Here's the problem with that:

The Game Engine is broken. We don't have a GM who will even tell us if a bill will work or not. I'd back a market health care proposal if an analysis came back and said, "hey, this works better!" but we're not going to see that because we need to fix the engine of the game in order to keep moving forward.

This is the most important part of the game. I served as GM. It was dreadful. It's too much for one person. When I resigned and Averroes came in, he said it was every bit as dreadful as I described.

We need a team to run the Game Engine. I've proposed separating the GM, and the "Game Engine Team" from the cabinet. SOIA and SOEA would leave the cabinet. The SOEA would become the GM's narrator for foreign affairs. The SOIA would be split in two, and they would be regional narrators. Regional narrators would offer narratives for the regions and analyze bills under the direction of the GM. The foreign narrator would do the same, but for foreign events. This reform only creates one more position, and it reduces the workload of the GM substantially. The GM job is hard to fill, but it will be easier when the work load is lessened.

We don't claim that this is a golden solution to our problems, but we do believe in debating it and bringing it to the Senate. Hagrid also has a proposal for game reform that I'd like to hear about as well.

I realize, I wrote a lot so if you'd like to see more of our platform here it is: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164259.msg4159783#msg4159783

In that thread, we outlined our ideas for comprehensive welfare reform, activity, on federal elections, drones, copyright, and more.

Our opponents have kept attacking us on why we shouldn't get your nomination, but they're not even in your party. The Federalists know best on why someone should or should not get their party's nomination -- thats why we had opted to not address the convention until North Carolina Yankee gave the "okay."

Our record and our accomplishments is the most important indicator of what you're likely to see from Dallasfan and I if elected. We're realistic, we're pragmatic and we've stood with the Federalist Party before and I'm sure we will stand with them again.

Thank you for your time, and I hope you'll consider us for your nomination.

-SirNick

[Hifly]

x Hifly

I too am endorsing the DemPGH/Windjammer ticket. Windjammer is a moderate who has shown that he has a strong capacity for hard workmanship in public office.

[Senator Cris]

I have not appreciated for nothing the recent words of Keaton.
Please read the Windjammer speech --> https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=193766.0

[Lumine]

Why, I am rather surprised at the amount of debate this has generated. I view debate as very positive, but I am even more surprised that in light of recent attacks we could still consider endorsing Labor. Even a quick glance on the board will show TNF and Griffin, once again going after this party for a bunch of baseless and at times offensive accusations. You might call my indignation cynical since my membership is recent, but after having to withstand such attacks in the Progressive Union and my Senate campaign for quite a long time, I am past the point of tolerating this without firing back.

SirNick and DemPGH both belonged to Labor, that's certainly true, and it's a fair point to make as I have seen in past comments. But there is a difference in their respective roads in Labor. I am grateful to DemPGH for most the time he spent on the Progressive Union, but it should be remembered that he left and rejoined twice (one of those involved a very successful Labor convention in October, and the other was right after a small group almost passed a nationalization platform). SirNick left his party, but he left it without thinking to return, in my opinion disturbed by the actions of the radical wing of Labor that I have opposed in the past time. I take SirNick's label as an ideological independent (regardless of his actual membership) seriously, and I think this party should too.

Are we really willing to pretend Labor is still friendly in light of these recent attacks? Are we really planning to give away our chance to oppose those who have fought the Federalist Party at every turn? No, ladies and gentlemen, fellow party members, I believe we should stand with the candidate whose supporters and views openly respect this party.

[windjammer]

I have not appreciated for nothing the recent words of Keaton.
Please read the Windjammer speech --> https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=193766.0

Thank you Cris.

Here is my message:

As you probably know, the MW LGBT was struck down by the Supreme Court. So I guess I have to explain some things. I thank the Associate Justice for having let me defend this bill by the way.

Firstly, the goal of this bill. I received some PM by some people saying they couldn't vote for someone who wanted to "transform the gay community into a superior class". Let me be clear. The goal of this bill was made to forbide the firing based on sexual orientation motive. Something, I believe, most of Atlasia agree. Who believe someone should be fired based on their sexual orientation? That's what the motive of this bill, nothing extreme as you can see. The problem was the writing of this bill, and I'm sorry for that.

Now the second point, I read some comments, saying that I was against the right of free speech. I think I need to explain a bit my views on the right of free speech. Firstly, even if some people say the contrary, I support the right of free speech. I'm obviously pro-democracy (normal). However, I don't support the use of free speech to allow some disgusting comments. By saying that, I'm obviously referring to this case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snyder_v._Phelps. That's my point of view. You may disagree, but if you truly want to defend the right of people to disturb funerals because they're anti-gay, in name of free speech, that's your choice. Oh and, this is my view, I don't know the Labor thinks about that, so accusations on the Labor Party because of my views on free speech are definitely pointless.


Then, I received attacks from Riley Keaton. Firstly, I just want to say I don't understand why you're so hostile to me. I mean, one of the few bills (or the only bill, I'm not sure)  you wrote, failed to pass the Mideast Assembly, mostly because it was poorly written (https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=190391.0). So I thought that you can understand that mistakes can happen, that this is difficult to write bills,etc, because you had this experience. But that's all, you do whatever to want. And don't worry, since I don't have a problem with agressivity, I won't start creating thread because you were unable to pass this bill, because it was poorly written .

But, you're accusing me of being a poor legislator. Well, during my long time as MW representative, then as MW Archduke, and now as MW Governor, I wrote, sponsored (and signed) a lot of bills. So this is unfair to me judging my entire career on only the MW LGBT bill, bill I didn't even write (but assumed sponsorship and signed though, so I totally assume the mistake).

But that's fine, you have the right to believe that my career has been totally terrible, I disagree because I believe this is unfair to me, to judge me on only one bill, but that's your right.

However, I would like to remind all of you that the Vice-President isn't a legislator. He's the president of the senate. His duty is to break the tie, and to be the speaker of the senate. His duty isn't to write bill, amendments or anything. So I don't see how the fact that the MW LGBT was struck down could say I would be a weak VP, I would have understood if I were running for a senate seat, but that's not the case, I'm running for VP, who breaks the tie and is the speaker of the senate, not a senator.

And then RileyKeaton, you accused the Labor Party of being the origin of the problems of the current health care system. This is funny you say that because you weren't able yourself to reform the current Mideast health care, but that's not true. Fritzcare passed 8-1, this is a compromise between the federalist party, the labor party, the People's Party and former parties like the Liberal Party. Here is the link of this law: https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Fritzcare


Oh and I forget, I will soon visit Berlin for few days. But don't worry, I will be back before the elections! So please Riley Keaton, don't open other threads saying I would be unable to be VP because I would be in Berlin, or that I'm a german spy or I don't know.




Well, if you have any questions, feel free to ask .

[Senator Cris]

Why, I am rather surprised at the amount of debate this has generated. I view debate as very positive, but I am even more surprised that in light of recent attacks we could still consider endorsing Labor. Even a quick glance on the board will show TNF and Griffin, once again going after this party for a bunch of baseless and at times offensive accusations. You might call my indignation cynical since my membership is recent, but after having to withstand such attacks in the Progressive Union and my Senate campaign for quite a long time, I am past the point of tolerating this without firing back.

SirNick and DemPGH both belonged to Labor, that's certainly true, and it's a fair point to make as I have seen in past comments. But there is a difference in their respective roads in Labor. I am grateful to DemPGH for most the time he spent on the Progressive Union, but it should be remembered that he left and rejoined twice (one of those involved a very successful Labor convention in October, and the other was right after a small group almost passed a nationalization platform). SirNick left his party, but he left it without thinking to return, in my opinion disturbed by the actions of the radical wing of Labor that I have opposed in the past time. I take SirNick's label as an ideological independent (regardless of his actual membership) seriously, and I think this party should too.

Are we really willing to pretend Labor is still friendly in light of these recent attacks? Are we really planning to give away our chance to oppose those who have fought the Federalist Party at every turn? No, ladies and gentlemen, fellow party members, I believe we should stand with the candidate whose supporters and views openly respect this party.

I think that the TNF words are dangerous, even for the DemPGH/Windjammer Campaign, but also I think that Windjammer and DemPGH are Windjammer and DemPGH, not TNF.
Moreover, the TNF attacks, that I consider wrong, are a consequence of TheRileyKeaton attacks. But this not justifies the TNF attacks.

And folks, attack threads aren't my thing.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I echo President Tmth's words: we should not endorse either of these campaigns, and I find Winjammers open disregard of the right to free speech to be a dangerous road for this party to follow down.

[DC Al Fine]

There is a tendency in the party to put economy uber alles. But remember, politics is not strictly economics. D-R and radical Labor both reject the family values that Federalists hold dear. Dallasfan has approved bills that would make pornography available to children. I strongly urge my fellow Federalists to reject the libertine values of the D-R's and vote for DemPGH.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Endorsement declarations for President are now closed and Senate ends at midnight. I think Governor and Assembly declarations have also closed.


An hour remains for those wishing to declare for Governor or Regional Legislature.

[rpryor03]

I ask for the endorsement for Northeast Assembly.

[Cassius]

There is a tendency in the party to put economy uber alles. But remember, politics is not strictly economics. D-R and radical Labor both reject the family values that Federalists hold dear. Dallasfan has approved bills that would make pornography available to children. I strongly urge my fellow Federalists to reject the libertine values of the D-R's and vote for DemPGH.

Its true that one must not forget the importance of issues besides taxation and spending; however, on these issues I frankly see little difference between the Labor mainstream, nevermind it's radicals, and the Democratic-Republicans. After all, back in March, I think, Governor Windjammer, who's probably among the most conservative Laborites with regard to issues of morality, signed a bill abolishing life without parole, and signed another essentially promoting the formation of brothels. Neither ticket is my ideal choice when it comes to such questions, so I think we must fall back upon economic issues, as well as the issue of whom is better able to stand up to the Jacobins in the Senate. The Labor ticket, for all of the merits of it's nominees, will find it harder to do so. Thus, I'd argue that SirNick is probably a better choice for Federalists generally.

[windjammer]

There is a tendency in the party to put economy uber alles. But remember, politics is not strictly economics. D-R and radical Labor both reject the family values that Federalists hold dear. Dallasfan has approved bills that would make pornography available to children. I strongly urge my fellow Federalists to reject the libertine values of the D-R's and vote for DemPGH.

Its true that one must not forget the importance of issues besides taxation and spending; however, on these issues I frankly see little difference between the Labor mainstream, nevermind it's radicals, and the Democratic-Republicans. After all, back in March, I think, Governor Windjammer, who's probably among the most conservative Laborites with regard to issues of morality, signed a bill abolishing life without parole, and signed another essentially promoting the formation of brothels. Neither ticket is my ideal choice when it comes to such questions, so I think we must fall back upon economic issues, as well as the issue of whom is better able to stand up to the Jacobins in the Senate. The Labor ticket, for all of the merits of it's nominees, will find it harder to do so. Thus, I'd argue that SirNick is probably a better choice for Federalists generally.

Cassius, brothels were legal federally. The law I passed in the Midwest taxed them.
I have ont legzluzed brothels because they were already legal.

[windjammer]

The prostitution law I wrote restricted the building of brothels as well (not close to schools for instance)

The federal law was extremely liberal. What I have done was to restrict the building of brothels and It created à tax on that.

That's why cris voted for tgis bill.

[Cassius]

Ok, I largely withdraw the part of my remark on prostitution...

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

All nomination/declaration periods have come to a close.

Mideast Regional Senate
Senator DC al Fine ENDORSED

Midwest Regional Senate
RR1997 ENDORSED

Northeast Regional Senate
Deus Naturae - Pending

Pacific Regional Senate
No Endorsement

IDS Regional Senate
Senator North Carolina Yankee ENDORSED

All Federalist Candidates for Assembly have been endorsed (unless I missed an overflow of candidates somewhere).

Federalist Endorsement Ballot:

President:
[  ] Governor DemPGH (LAB-WA)/ Governor Windjammer (LAB-MN)
[  ] Fmr. Governor Sirnick (TPP-NY)/Governor Dallasfan (DR-MA)
[  ] None of the Above

NE Senate:
[  ] NE Assembly Speaker Deus Naturae (DR-NY)


The vote will be begin immediately and end 72 hours from now.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

President:
[X] Governor DemPGH (LAB-WA)/ Governor Windjammer (LAB-MN)
[  ] Fmr. Governor Sirnick (TPP-NY)/Governor Dallasfan (DR-MA)
[  ] None of the Above

NE Senate:
[  ] NE Assembly Speaker Deus Naturae (DR-NY)
[X] Write-in: bore (Forgot about this one... I know it's probably not valid at this point. )

[TJ in Oregon]

President:
[  ] Governor DemPGH (LAB-WA)/ Governor Windjammer (LAB-MN)
[  ] Fmr. Governor Sirnick (TPP-NY)/Governor Dallasfan (DR-MA)
[X] None of the Above

NE Senate:
[X] NE Assembly Speaker Deus Naturae (DR-NY)

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Federalist Endorsement Ballot:

President:
[] Governor DemPGH (LAB-WA)/ Governor Windjammer (LAB-MN)
[X] Fmr. Governor Sirnick (TPP-NY)/Governor Dallasfan (DR-MA)
[] None of the Above

NE Senate:
[X] NE Assembly Speaker Deus Naturae (DR-NY)

[HagridOfTheDeep]

President:
[  ] Governor DemPGH (LAB-WA)/ Governor Windjammer (LAB-MN)
[  ] Fmr. Governor Sirnick (TPP-NY)/Governor Dallasfan (DR-MA)
[X] None of the Above

NE Senate:
[X] NE Assembly Speaker Deus Naturae (DR-NY)