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« Reply #225 on: July 16, 2014, 04:25:49 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #226 on: July 16, 2014, 08:58:29 AM »

This has another day, could we at least get ten people to vote this time. Tongue
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« Reply #227 on: July 16, 2014, 08:50:20 PM »

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« Reply #228 on: July 16, 2014, 10:29:32 PM »

Aye I guess. It's kinda platitudish though.
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« Reply #229 on: July 17, 2014, 04:36:29 PM »

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« Reply #230 on: July 17, 2014, 05:51:37 PM »

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« Reply #231 on: July 17, 2014, 06:53:56 PM »

Since the current vote will be over soon, I thought I'd introduce an amendment of my own. I actually don't agree with it myself, but I figure it's an important thing to talk about and most members probably would want something like this in the platform.

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« Reply #232 on: July 19, 2014, 11:41:50 AM »

The last amendmented has been adopted by a margin of 7-2, I think.

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The vote is on the question of whether or not to add the above plank to the platform. This vote will late 48 hours.

[   ] Aye
[   ] Nay
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« Reply #233 on: July 19, 2014, 04:04:00 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #234 on: July 19, 2014, 04:29:52 PM »

I can come up with more, but are we all okay with this one-at-a-time approach? I actually kind of like it. At the end we'll have a big mess of unrelated points, but the important thing is that we'll have solid material. Then someone can just sort things into headers and it'll be done.
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« Reply #235 on: July 19, 2014, 04:36:21 PM »

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« Reply #236 on: July 19, 2014, 04:54:06 PM »

I can come up with more, but are we all okay with this one-at-a-time approach? I actually kind of like it. At the end we'll have a big mess of unrelated points, but the important thing is that we'll have solid material. Then someone can just sort things into headers and it'll be done.

I think it's a good way of working with the platform, even if turnout might bring some problems from time to time. And it also allows for the members to have a quick process for their specific proposals.

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« Reply #237 on: July 19, 2014, 08:43:01 PM »

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« Reply #238 on: July 20, 2014, 07:57:06 AM »

Oui Yes
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« Reply #239 on: July 20, 2014, 08:05:38 AM »

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« Reply #240 on: July 20, 2014, 03:15:33 PM »

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« Reply #241 on: July 21, 2014, 11:28:51 PM »

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« Reply #242 on: July 22, 2014, 12:20:06 PM »

The amendment has passed 8-0.


Any more amendments?

And yes I do like this one at a time process. Smiley
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« Reply #243 on: July 22, 2014, 01:19:36 PM »

Why not:

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My own attempt to address some issues and recognize the importance of foreign policy (including signed treaties and declarations, like the Budapest Memorandum I've spoken about in the Senate) and the need for measured (special emphasis in measured) participation and intervention once in a while. I'm honestly not trying to bring the party into going full-hawk by any means and I tried to be careful with the language, but I don't feel we should follow an isolationist approach and avoid taking stances here.
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« Reply #244 on: July 22, 2014, 03:10:53 PM »

I like that very much as a first point in a foreign policy section. Maybe after this vote we can get into specifics about some countries of interest (a commitment to Israel, for example).
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« Reply #245 on: July 22, 2014, 03:56:35 PM »

I like that very much as a first point in a foreign policy section. Maybe after this vote we can get into specifics about some countries of interest (a commitment to Israel, for example).

Excellent! Although getting more specific than that will be the problem given the different views some have, xD (for example, I fully support Palestine instead of Israel and so forth) Perhaps targeting Russia and China for an specific statement (I believe we all see them as potential threats) and some words regarding Latin America, Africa, South Korea and Japan might be easier to accomplish.
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« Reply #246 on: July 26, 2014, 07:19:13 AM »

I am worried that such overlaps with the present wording of the Foreign Policy section to deem it a near total replacement. Such was not the case with the previous amendments that just added new planks on previously unaddressed issues.

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« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2014, 07:45:41 AM »

I would recommend revising the amendment or turning into a full replacement for the section.
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« Reply #248 on: July 26, 2014, 12:57:02 PM »

Indeed, I will introduce this amendment to replace the foreign policy section:

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It has several parts from the old section, includes most my proposed amendment and some specific stances on areas were I believe we need urgent reform, that is, the constitutional loopholes we saw with my Iraq resolution and the problems we see in international organisms as of now. I also included a section addressing defense, I am not very happy with recent bills targeting the military and I believe the party also shares that concern (Clarence has spoken about it, for example).
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« Reply #249 on: July 26, 2014, 05:13:36 PM »

Could you use some bolding to highlight the changes from the old text?
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