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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2014, 04:36:23 PM »

Didn't this knob ban Coca Cola or something?
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2014, 05:57:36 PM »

To be fair, a religious studies prof was fired at my school (UIUC) for preaching about gay marriage. The way I understand it was that he was not just teaching religious positions on the topic, but was actually preaching his Christian view on it.
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2014, 05:59:31 PM »

I'd have sh**tcanned him, too.
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2014, 06:03:37 PM »

The GOP has wasted more of your money than the Democrats could ever dream of doing. And truly wasted it, not just put it into state programs that you may think are suboptimal.

Look at spending growth in the United States. A lion's share is mandatory entitlement spending.

And a lion's share of that mandatory entitlement spending is caused by the GOP's Medicare Part D.
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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2014, 12:58:30 AM »

The GOP has wasted more of your money than the Democrats could ever dream of doing. And truly wasted it, not just put it into state programs that you may think are suboptimal.

Look at spending growth in the United States. A lion's share is mandatory entitlement spending.

And a lion's share of that mandatory entitlement spending is caused by the GOP's Medicare Part D.

Maybe it's just because I was eight at the time, but I don't recall Democrats raising hackles about Part D, either. I haven't read much on it though, I could be wrong on that. But I'm currently under the impression it was uncontroversial at the time.
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2014, 09:46:15 AM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.
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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2014, 08:38:18 PM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.

Given than faculty and students are overwhelmingly left-wing or non-political, why bringing someone clearly out of tune with them?
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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2014, 09:24:47 PM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.

Given than faculty and students are overwhelmingly left-wing or non-political, why bringing someone clearly out of tune with them?

They want to add wingnut affirmative action to the already lucrative wingnut welfare system.
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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2014, 10:03:07 PM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.
Part of the problem is that the Democrats haven't really done anything that would get students riled up and part is that while all politicians prefer speaking to like-minded people, conservatives have been more prone to that because they could afford to.  They still act like they can do that because they don't seem to have truly grasped that the political ground has eroded out from underneath them nationally because regionally they still have solid ground.
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« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2014, 11:18:14 PM »

The GOP has wasted more of your money than the Democrats could ever dream of doing. And truly wasted it, not just put it into state programs that you may think are suboptimal.

Look at spending growth in the United States. A lion's share is mandatory entitlement spending.

And a lion's share of that mandatory entitlement spending is caused by the GOP's Medicare Part D.

Maybe it's just because I was eight at the time, but I don't recall Democrats raising hackles about Part D, either. I haven't read much on it though, I could be wrong on that. But I'm currently under the impression it was uncontroversial at the time.

It's uncontroversial unless you also want to spout a narrative about how entitlement spending grows out of control naturally because it's an entitlement. Before Part D and the Bush tax cuts, Medicare was paid for.
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« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2014, 12:02:58 AM »
« Edited: June 02, 2014, 12:05:21 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

The GOP has wasted more of your money than the Democrats could ever dream of doing. And truly wasted it, not just put it into state programs that you may think are suboptimal.

Look at spending growth in the United States. A lion's share is mandatory entitlement spending.

And a lion's share of that mandatory entitlement spending is caused by the GOP's Medicare Part D.

Maybe it's just because I was eight at the time, but I don't recall Democrats raising hackles about Part D, either. I haven't read much on it though, I could be wrong on that. But I'm currently under the impression it was uncontroversial at the time.

LOL, uncontroversial bills don't have the vote take hours in the middle of the night until they bribe and threaten enough Congressmen for it to barely pass. You clearly didn't pay the slightest attention to how it passed the House.

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LOL, "uncontroversial".
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« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2014, 01:56:44 AM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.

Given than faculty and students are overwhelmingly left-wing or non-political, why bringing someone clearly out of tune with them?

They want to add wingnut affirmative action to the already lucrative wingnut welfare system.

Or, you know, it's just a big echo-chamber that breeds left-wing thought and a different perspective could do some good.
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« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2014, 09:42:19 AM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.

Given than faculty and students are overwhelmingly left-wing or non-political, why bringing someone clearly out of tune with them?

They want to add wingnut affirmative action to the already lucrative wingnut welfare system.

Or, you know, it's just a big echo-chamber that breeds left-wing thought and a different perspective could do some good.

     Allowing a different perspective? That almost sounds like a liberal idea. Wink
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« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2014, 10:00:52 AM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.

Given than faculty and students are overwhelmingly left-wing or non-political, why bringing someone clearly out of tune with them?
Yeah, SCREW THE MINORITY!
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« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2014, 10:52:17 AM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.

But remember, conservatives are wrong, and wrong viewpoints don't deserve to be listened to.
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« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2014, 12:42:25 PM »

Commencement speeches are ceremonial and should rightfully be tailored to the preferences of students. Obviously a significant function of the commence speech is imparting some kind of timeless wisdom to students and students could certainly benefit from a different perspective but this function is destroyed if the speaker is perceived to be a craven hack. Considering that the event is for students and their family, it makes no sense to subject them to a speech from a political figure they despise. They're footing the (oftentimes astronomical) speaker bill via their tuition dollars.

Let's get this straight: censorship is not students expressing their preference for a commence speaker that is better suited for them. Censorship is not students protesting prominent conservative figures being hired as professors for outrageous sums of money. The claim that any of this constitutes censorship is designed to discredit the academy, which serves the political objective of conservatives.
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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2014, 12:58:29 PM »

So you're still not admitting that censorship goes on and now you're claiming that all this is part of a plan by the "others" to make the uni's look bad?
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« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2014, 01:07:32 PM »
« Edited: June 02, 2014, 01:38:45 PM by Simfan34 »

Bloomberg was speaking in broader terms than commencement speakers, however, but rather a general and concerted trend to shut out views not conforming to the prevailing liberal consensus on college campuses. I think the following describes it well:

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« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2014, 01:15:17 PM »

oh my god
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« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2014, 01:22:57 PM »

Metanarrative? Bloomberg is a poststructuralist now?
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« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2014, 02:11:07 PM »

Nate Silver confirms that right of center politicians are almost totally absent these days as graduation speakers in the Ivory Tower. Lots of lip service is given to tolerance and a preference for diversity. That's the PC thing to do, particularly among those who like to think they are enlightened. The reality is very different. Click on the poll on that which Nate links in his article.

Given than faculty and students are overwhelmingly left-wing or non-political, why bringing someone clearly out of tune with them?

They want to add wingnut affirmative action to the already lucrative wingnut welfare system.

Or, you know, it's just a big echo-chamber that breeds left-wing thought and a different perspective could do some good.

Yeah, I'm sure college students will want Ann Coulter or Sean Hannity to speak at their graduation ceremony to tell them how stupid and brainwashed they are. It's already been shown that sane and normal Republicans have spoken at commencement ceremonies. Unfortunately, the number of those decreases daily, and they are now close to extinct.
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« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2014, 02:47:34 PM »

Conservatives control the departments that really matter -- economics, business administration, and finance. Sure, there are a lot of left wing college professors in physics or anthropology or oriental studies, but they aren't training the future masters of the universe.
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« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2014, 03:03:54 PM »

Harvard awarded George H.W. Bush, a Republican President, an honorary degree this year.

It's an absolute travesty that liberal universities aren't inviting Joe the Plumber, the Duck Dynasty guy, or Donald Trump to address them for equal time.
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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2014, 03:13:56 PM »

Harvard awarded George H.W. Bush, a Republican President, an honorary degree this year.

It's an absolute travesty that liberal universities aren't inviting Joe the Plumber, the Duck Dynasty guy, or Donald Trump to address them for equal time.

I assume these "very, very concerned" people are also slamming Liberty University for never inviting Nancy Pelosi or Al Gore for commencement speeches.
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« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2014, 03:23:47 PM »

Metanarrative? Bloomberg is a poststructuralist now?

No, but apparently Rod Dreher is pretending to be one, much like an otherwise conventionally macho man putting on a tacky wig and tackier dress for one school play in his late teens or early twenties and considering it 'drag'. That's less surprising.
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