POLL re gay marriage

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I agree with everything you've said about race baiting but I strongly disagree with the notion that his statement on slapping white people is racist. It is certainly expressing antipathy towards white people but hatred towards white people in that context is understandable. The idea of reparations is ridiculous but the general sentiment that white people are ignorant about race relations is rational and disliking them as a group, especially if you have little contact with white people outside of interactions regarding race relations or politics, for this reason is warranted and isn't racist. It's actually absurd to think that it's racist because it isn't predicated on some kind of essentialized trait or generalized behavior but rather an empirical truth.

Disliking people b/c of their race = not racist, and yet I'm a racist for god knows what reason.

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I agree with everything you've said about race baiting but I strongly disagree with the notion that his statement on slapping white people is racist. It is certainly expressing antipathy towards white people but hatred towards white people in that context is understandable. The idea of reparations is ridiculous but the general sentiment that white people are ignorant about race relations is rational and disliking them as a group, especially if you have little contact with white people outside of interactions regarding race relations or politics, for this reason is warranted and isn't racist. It's actually absurd to think that it's racist because it isn't predicated on some kind of essentialized trait or generalized behavior but rather an empirical truth.

Disliking people b/c of their race = not racist, and yet I'm a racist for god knows what reason.

This is incoherent.

Yes, your standard of defining who or what is racist is incoherent if I qualify but actually hating an entire race of people doesn't.  I don't know how you can say that disliking an entire race of people is warranted and claim that it isn't based on "an essentialized trait or generalized behavior." 

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I agree with everything you've said about race baiting but I strongly disagree with the notion that his statement on slapping white people is racist. It is certainly expressing antipathy towards white people but hatred towards white people in that context is understandable. The idea of reparations is ridiculous but the general sentiment that white people are ignorant about race relations is rational and disliking them as a group, especially if you have little contact with white people outside of interactions regarding race relations or politics, for this reason is warranted and isn't racist. It's actually absurd to think that it's racist because it isn't predicated on some kind of essentialized trait or generalized behavior but rather an empirical truth.

Disliking people b/c of their race = not racist, and yet I'm a racist for god knows what reason.

This is incoherent.

Yes, your standard of defining who or what is racist is incoherent if I qualify but actually hating an entire race of people doesn't.  I don't know how you can say that disliking an entire race of people is warranted and claim that it isn't based on "an essentialized trait or generalized behavior." 

A non-negligible number of Black Americans dislike white people because some of their family members have been killed at the hands of white supremacists, been barred from eating at restaurants, been called degrading names, been racially profiled and denied their civil rights. If that doesn't warrant some degree of resentment, I don't know what does.

I can certainly see how it is understandable, but that doesn't mean it is warranted, and it is still racism.  It is absolutely based on a generalization against a group of people, and a group of people that are defined as having their essence characterized by their race. 

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White Americans are responsible for the existence of racism. This is a fact, not a generalization. White Americans have significant advantages due to their perceived race. This is not a character trait, this is a reality. If you're annoyed by this state of affairs and blame white America for continuing to support a system of racial caste that upholds racial inequity, you're not a racist. White Americans are responsible for racism and deserve the blame and aspersions of those that they've oppressed unless they make significant efforts to change the status quo. 

I don't know what definition of "generalization" you could be using here.
Speaking in terms of "White Americans" as acting or being in a particular way is itself a generalization based on race, and extending a concept of race to impute collective guilt is to treat race as a reified object constitutive of a person's most essential being. 

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Notice I am not saying that all white people are responsible but that white people are responsible. There's a distinct difference here.

As long as this distinction is constantly remembered I think it's sort of impossible to disagree much. I'm not even really sure what the issue is with what DFB is saying, here.

The claim that hating a race of people is not racist is bound to be controversial.