10 years since Ronald Reagan's death

[Joe Biden 2020]

I don't know if anybody realizes, but today (June 5) is the 10th anniversary of President Ronald Reagan's passing.

From a neutral perspective, how does America view his presidency 10 years after his death and 25 years after he left office?

I still contend he's the best president in American History, slightly above Abe Lincoln.

I believe America as a whole remember the Reagan years with great fondness, even better than Clinton or Bush right after him and certainly much better than Obama.

[Antonio the Sixth]

*shrug*

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

[Filuwaúrdjan]

remember

Are you sure that's quite the right word to use?

[All Along The Watchtower]

Reagan? That B-list actor turned right-wing salesman and corporate stooge for General Electric? The guy who snitched on his Hollywood friends for HUAC?

Ask a black person or a gay person or a working-class person in the Upper Midwest who remembers Reagan for a more...real-world perspective on his Presidency and legacy.

Yeah, don't miss him.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Changed my thing in memorium.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Changed mine as well.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

What a horrible, destructive President. A huge number of America's problems can be directly traced to his Presidency and legacy.


I can't believe people still like him for such superficial reasons.

[Cassius]

Reagan? That B-list actor turned right-wing salesman and corporate stooge for General Electric? The guy who snitched on his Hollywood friends for HUAC?

Ask a black person or a gay person or a working-class person in the Upper Midwest who remembers Reagan for a more...real-world perspective on his Presidency and legacy.

Yeah, don't miss him.

Of course, only the downtrodden can ever have a valid opinion. I mean, I'm sure you'd get an equally 'real-worldly' perspective from... I don't know, the man who was a Wall Street Banker, Business Owner or CIA analyst during the Reagan years. Or indeed, anybody who worked in the arms industry during the Reagan years.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Just to let you know, but you've crossed the line over into self parody there.

[angus]

I don't know if anybody realizes, but today (June 5) is the 10th anniversary of President Ronald Reagan's passing.

Hadn't thought about it, really.  I was married ten years ago on this day.  I suppose we were pretty busy all day on June 4, 2004 and I wasn't paying attention to the news.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Whatever.

[Cassius]

Just to let you know, but you've crossed the line over into self parody there.

I started down that path when I was about 5. 'Tis just another normal day. Self-deprecation and self-parody - two pillars of my life so far

[Sol]

Changed my thing in memorium.

It's a pity they don't have a Nicaraguan or Salvadoran avatar.

[Miles]

What a horrible, destructive President. A huge number of America's problems can be directly traced to his Presidency and legacy.


I can't believe people still like him for such superficial reasons.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Reagan? That B-list actor turned right-wing salesman and corporate stooge for General Electric? The guy who snitched on his Hollywood friends for HUAC?

Ask a black person or a gay person or a working-class person in the Upper Midwest who remembers Reagan for a more...real-world perspective on his Presidency and legacy.

Yeah, don't miss him.

Of course, only the downtrodden can ever have a valid opinion. I mean, I'm sure you'd get an equally 'real-worldly' perspective from... I don't know, the man who was a Wall Street Banker, Business Owner or CIA analyst during the Reagan years. Or indeed, anybody who worked in the arms industry during the Reagan years.

The least you can offer the downtrodden is to take seriously their "opinions" (more like real-world experiences, but whatever), considering how exhausting it is to live in a world of oppression and adversity.

Conversely, I'm sure the business owners, Wall Street bankers, and other "job creators" (lol) that did indeed benefit from Ronnie Trickle-down Reagan's Presidency don't exactly care about whether most people take their opinions seriously...just the important people in society.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Can we stop bashing him and accept the great things he did?

[SWE]

Can we stop bashing him and accept the great things he did?

For example?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I remember exactly where I was. I was an eight year old on his way to spend the night at Grandma's apartment, and when I walked in I found her on the couch wiping tears away. I also remember watching his funeral. RIP...I guess?

The Reagan hate is adorable, especially as many of these same people attacked me for my opinions on the death of Hugo Chavez. For whatever its worth, I don't find the attacks here on Reagan to be distasteful (the Thatcher thread was awful, but whatever), but I must note the hypocrisy.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I remember exactly where I was. I was an eight year old on his way to spend the night at Grandma's apartment, and when I walked in I found her on the couch wiping tears away. I also remember watching his funeral. RIP...I guess?

The Reagan hate is adorable, especially as many of these same people attacked me for my opinions on the death of Hugo Chavez. For whatever its worth, I don't find the attacks here on Reagan to be distasteful (the Thatcher thread was awful, but whatever), but I must note the hypocrisy.

I don't pretend to be consistent, but it's not hypocrisy, it's valuing my opinion of Reagan over your opinion of Chavez.

[Comrade Funk]

White 90s kids whining. Laughable.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I remember exactly where I was. I was an eight year old on his way to spend the night at Grandma's apartment, and when I walked in I found her on the couch wiping tears away. I also remember watching his funeral. RIP...I guess?

The Reagan hate is adorable, especially as many of these same people attacked me for my opinions on the death of Hugo Chavez. For whatever its worth, I don't find the attacks here on Reagan to be distasteful (the Thatcher thread was awful, but whatever), but I must note the hypocrisy.

I don't pretend to be consistent, but it's not hypocrisy, it's valuing my opinion of Reagan over your opinion of Chavez.

Isn’t saying “I can bash Reagan because I hate him” and then saying “you’re not allowed to bash Chavez because I like him” the height of hypocrisy? I don’t fault you for holding a higher value of your opinions over mine-I am guilty of the same thing, but I do fault you and several others for being particularly vocal in the Chavez thread.

“Basic human dignity.” Remember when Velasco, Lief, Platypus, Hashemite, and Kalwejt (who at the time really disappointed me in that thread since I thought he would be more consistent) attacked my lack of that in the Chavez thread? And remember when you said you were going to “avenge” Chavez (that post may have been deleted in the sh*tfest that followed) by bashing Thatcher? I do. Celebrating the lives of tyrants and the deaths of democratic leaders with whom you disagree with is a common trend among some of our forum leftists.

White 90s kids whining. Laughable.

As Afleitch noted in the Thatcher thread, most people who were bashing Thatcher as the destroyer of the "idealistic and community oriented past" were not alive to realize that Britain just wasn't the way they imagined it before Thatcher. I don't defend Reagan for that same reason, as I was born fifteen years after he first took office in 1981, and thus have absolutely no experience with him as my President.....like most people bashing him, oddly enough.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The end of stagflation had literally nothing to do with Reagan.

[Cassius]

The end of stagflation had literally nothing to do with Reagan.

Well, he did reappoint Volcker as Fed Chairman (although most of the heavy-lifting by Volcker had already been done), and his ending of 70's price controls on oil did help reduce prices in that sense too. So, he had a partial role in it, even if he wasn't the main actor.

[Peter the Lefty]

Yay.  10 years without that waste of oxygen.