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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2014, 02:51:33 PM »

Surprised they haven't already.
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2014, 01:22:54 PM »

Why is this a problem? In pursuit of happiness, grown adults ought to be able to seek the counseling or type of counseling they wish.
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2014, 01:32:53 PM »

Why is this a problem? In pursuit of happiness, grown adults ought to be able to seek the counseling or type of counseling they wish.

Because junk science isn't any less of a junk science just because it makes people feel good or think that it will make them feel good?
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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2014, 01:33:42 PM »

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This is a religious liberty issue, but it's also a pursuit of happiness issue.
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2014, 01:35:47 PM »

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This is a religious liberty issue, but it's also a pursuit of happiness issue.

Is psychological torture a religious right?
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2014, 01:36:57 PM »

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This is a religious liberty issue, but it's also a pursuit of happiness issue.

No, it's a consistency issue.  We prosecute people for selling junk with the false promise that they will change something or make life better for people.  When it comes to reparative therapy, either you're brainwashing people, or you're the one being brainwashed.
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2014, 01:47:02 PM »

SF, what's you favourite treatment out of interest? Are electrodes and hormone replacement therapy a bit too 1950's. What about frontal lobotomies? So what do religious groups offer today? What about aversion therapy involving pinching, or mild electric shocks. Ipecac enduced vomiting perhaps? Punching pillows, forced non sexual male bonding. Non sexual hugging sessions with other males? Flash card aversion therapies? What about blaming mother, or father or blaming the fact you were the oldest/middle/youngest child?  How about being a dirty filthy sinner, no worse than a pedophile, no worse than a dog? How about projecting your homosexual desires onto Jesus? Why not send you to a camp, or perform an exorcism or ritualistically shave you, or beat you with reeds like a child in order to learn good behaviour? What about having everyone you love removed from you until you come back 'fixed'? Why not marry a woman and have kids? Why not get f-cked up and if it fails or you end up topping yourself well it's your own fault for being a stupid weak f-aggot?

Or you can be loved.
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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2014, 03:00:58 PM »

While I still feel that people can change their sexual orientation

Based on what? Could you convince yourself that you were gay and then enjoy being gay? That would be just as likely as someone who's naturally gay being able to become straight.

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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2014, 05:23:00 PM »

The sad thing is that I think the TX GOP feel this is somehow softening their position. They are going from saying the gays are destroying America to the much nicer: the gays are ill and need to be cured. See, the TX GOP is 'evolving'
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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2014, 07:27:37 PM »

Why is this a problem? In pursuit of happiness, grown adults ought to be able to seek the counseling or type of counseling they wish.

Exercise your rights. Agressively.
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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2014, 10:20:23 AM »

It was adopted.
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2014, 12:52:32 PM »


Of course it was. The Texas Republican Party is insane and among the worst of the worst. If you really need to see the true beliefs of the far-right, look no further than the Texas Republican Party's most recent platform.
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2014, 02:41:22 PM »

The Texas GOP has not yet gone hard-left like the California GOP has just done.
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2014, 02:56:58 PM »

I think it should be illegal to force minors to participate in "ex-gay" therapy - or any kind of psychiatry. Psychiatry in general is discredited. "Ex-gay" therapy is no different.

Psychiatry can be very useful. Condemnation of bad psychiatry in the past and in different places (like psychiatry as a means of repression of dissidents in the old USSR) is like altogether  rejecting music because one has heard "Disco Duck" or cinema because one has seen Howard the Duck.   

The American Psychiatric Association condemns 'ex-gay' therapy as ineffective and unconscionable.  Psychiatry can be just the thing for treating people for homophobia.

It wasn't until fairly recently that the American Psychiatric Association stopped condemning homosexuality. They considered it a disease until not long ago.

The United States is one of the biggest offenders at using psychiatry for repression of dissidents.

Please stop posting. Thanks bi.
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2014, 03:05:47 PM »

I think it should be illegal to force minors to participate in "ex-gay" therapy - or any kind of psychiatry. Psychiatry in general is discredited. "Ex-gay" therapy is no different.

Psychiatry can be very useful. Condemnation of bad psychiatry in the past and in different places (like psychiatry as a means of repression of dissidents in the old USSR) is like altogether  rejecting music because one has heard "Disco Duck" or cinema because one has seen Howard the Duck.   

The American Psychiatric Association condemns 'ex-gay' therapy as ineffective and unconscionable.  Psychiatry can be just the thing for treating people for homophobia.

It wasn't until fairly recently that the American Psychiatric Association stopped condemning homosexuality. They considered it a disease until not long ago.

The United States is one of the biggest offenders at using psychiatry for repression of dissidents.

Please stop posting. Thanks bi.

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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2014, 03:08:56 PM »


Once again.  Joke.  Party.
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« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2014, 10:01:27 PM »

I'm actually more shocked that it wasn't already in there.

Based on my understanding, this was added to the platform by a Texas Republican who had heard an anecdote about how ex-gay therapy "helped" this one guy.

The most solid of political platforms are the ones based off of a lone anecdote.
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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2014, 11:49:28 PM »

News flash: ex-gay therapy does not work.  But if you (CountryClassSF) hate being gay so much, by all means try it.  Be sure to come back and tell us all how it went.
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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2014, 12:29:44 AM »
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That's too bad.
News flash: ex-gay therapy does not work.  But if you (CountryClassSF) hate being gay so much, by all means try it.  Be sure to come back and tell us all how it went.

It worked for the guy who was the basis for this.
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« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2014, 12:38:34 AM »

It worked for the guy who was the basis for this.

Huh?  What guy are you talking about?
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« Reply #45 on: June 09, 2014, 12:57:02 AM »

News flash: ex-gay therapy does not work.  But if you (CountryClassSF) hate being gay so much, by all means try it.  Be sure to come back and tell us all how it went.

You know, if I had money to blow, I'd probably meet with the guy in person and pay for the therapy myself in a state where it's legal.  (In other words, not his.)  That would make for a fun experiment.
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« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2014, 12:57:20 AM »

It worked for the guy who was the basis for this.

Huh?  What guy are you talking about?

Based on my understanding, this was added to the platform by a Texas Republican who had heard an anecdote about how ex-gay therapy "helped" this one guy.

The most solid of political platforms are the ones based off of a lone anecdote.
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« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2014, 08:24:14 AM »

Rick Perry was asked about this, and said that being gay was kind of like being an alcoholic... you can choose to be "sober."

We've come a long way. I used to find this kind of talk sinister, but now he sounds trapped in the 1990s.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-perry-compares-homosexuality-alcoholism
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« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2014, 06:57:33 PM »

Republicans are really moving with the times.  This is almost as pathetic as the right-winger named "never" who just berated me for not explaining in detail why Virginia and Colorado were trending Democrat.
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2014, 02:17:05 AM »

Rick Perry was asked about this, and said that being gay was kind of like being an alcoholic... you can choose to be "sober."

We've come a long way. I used to find this kind of talk sinister, but now he sounds trapped in the 1990s.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rick-perry-compares-homosexuality-alcoholism
Rick Perry is often thought to be gay....maybe he's a cured gay.
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