SENATE BILL: Rapists Shouldn't Have Custody Act of 2014 (Redraft Law'd)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment has been adopted?

Anything else or can we end this?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE albeit with some concerns

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

Aye

And as Duke alluded to, it's really not difficult, if this is found unconstitutional, to use the nuclear option.

You mean removing all federal funding from a region because they won't do something we legally are not allowed to command them to do?   That should definitely be considered unconstitutional.

Not really because no one is forcing them to take the money.

Ironically, the episode of M.A.S.H where BJ borrows money from Winchester to buy some land and pays for it as Winchester basically try to make him his slave, is on right now.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

Aye

And as Duke alluded to, it's really not difficult, if this is found unconstitutional, to use the nuclear option.

You mean removing all federal funding from a region because they won't do something we legally are not allowed to command them to do?   That should definitely be considered unconstitutional.

Not really because no one is forcing them to take the money.

Ironically, the episode of M.A.S.H where BJ borrows money from Winchester to buy some land and pays for it as Winchester basically try to make him his slave, is on right now.

No, we are just taxing the people of the region, thus lessening the tax base for regional funding for a function, and then withholding the money for that function if they don't do what we tell them in some completely different area. Yeah, not coercive at all.   

The question was whether or not that was constitutional. I never said it was not coercive. Dependency inherently leads to a lack of freedom and flexibility for the duration of the dependence.

I wouldn't support it with regards to an unreletated function and certainly not to this extent, but certainly if Federal tax dollars, applying standards in exchange to make sure that money is used properly is hardly unseemly. In my preference the regions would take the lead for instance on education and the Feds would just fill in the gaps resource wise and thus the impact on the tax base for instance. I am less familiar with this realm of things, and thus maybe as a condition of certain funding for crime matters might be reasonable.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Final Passage of the Rapists Shouldn't Have Custody Act of 2014:

Aye (: Adam Griffin, Alfred F. Jones, bore, DC al Fine, Goldwater, Lumine, NC Yankee, and TNF
Nay (1): shua
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): TyriontheImperialist

The bill has passed and is presented to the President for executive action.

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Mr. President, I would recommend redrafting the legislation, removing the first half of clause one.

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^ Remove this. It is redundant in light of the second sentence, anything missign in the second sentence could merely be moved down to it.

And the word "existing" in front of "legislation in the next sentence of clause 2.

Do that it is merely a matter of legislative supremacy, no?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yes but the problem is that you are commanding the regions to do something, no? IF you remove the command that is unnecessary anyway, legislative suppremacy would ensure that any such legislation is superceded regardless and their is less grounds for it to be challanged.

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I believe there is a 24 hour peirod required now before we can proceed to a vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators, a vote is now open on the Presidential Redraft, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain:

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You're right. Here you go. Now the lawsuits will be more difficult.

Nothing about life makes any sense to me anymore, and it's just so refreshing and fantastic.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If you think my understanding about the supremacy thing is wrong, then feel free to state why but so far no one has stated anything else.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE FTR