SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !?
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« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2014, 09:36:06 PM »

is it possible for him to run as an independent a la Murkowski or Lieberman?
He can do a write in like Murkowski, but he cant run as a independent.
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2014, 09:38:59 PM »

Oh wow. This has made my night.
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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2014, 09:39:28 PM »

Cathy Rodgers. That's my pick for succession.

He'll win a write-in if he tried it. But his time in leadership is over then.
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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2014, 09:42:09 PM »

There's no way he could win a write-in candidacy, but one would give the Democrat a real shot at winning, since Cantor certainly wouldn't be getting any crossover support. It will just divide Republicans.
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« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2014, 10:00:30 PM »

hahahahahahahaha

Is there video of his concession speech somewhere? Has he even made it yet? Can he run as an independent?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cantor-gives-concession-speech-obviously-we-came-up-short/
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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2014, 10:01:17 PM »

FWIW, DKE says Northam won CD7 with 50.6%. Unlikely Brat ends up as bad a candidate as Jackson, but just saying.
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« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2014, 10:08:01 PM »

Judge Smith and Willis Robertson lost in '66 when the Organization imploded. Apparently last time a House Majority Leader lost was ... 1899.

The House Majority Leader office was established in 1899. Before that it was the Ways and Means Chair that filled the role. So this is the first time.
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2014, 10:15:33 PM »

FWIW, DKE says Northam won CD7 with 50.6%. Unlikely Brat ends up as bad a candidate as Jackson, but just saying.

That's an interesting fact.

Unless Brat shows us otherwise, I would expect that he will perform at least as well as Cuccinelli did in CD7 (he won 52% of the vote in that district)
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« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2014, 10:16:21 PM »

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...
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« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2014, 10:45:11 PM »

Boehner's statement reads like Cantor died:

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« Reply #60 on: June 10, 2014, 10:47:12 PM »

FWIW, DKE says Northam won CD7 with 50.6%. Unlikely Brat ends up as bad a candidate as Jackson, but just saying.

That's an interesting fact.

Unless Brat shows us otherwise, I would expect that he will perform at least as well as Cuccinelli did in CD7 (he won 52% of the vote in that district)

Governor races are different from congressional races. I doubt any Democrat will be able to replicate performances like those, even against a bad candidate.
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« Reply #61 on: June 10, 2014, 10:52:07 PM »

is it possible for him to run as an independent a la Murkowski or Lieberman?
He can do a write in like Murkowski, but he cant run as a independent.

The district is very Republican, but not so Republican that him getting any traction would keep it safe. It would be a crazy thing for him to attempt.
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« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2014, 10:54:19 PM »

So apparently some Democrats voted in this open primary against Cantor.

Hopefully this momentum will be sustained to November!
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« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2014, 11:00:51 PM »

It would be smart for the the Dems nationwide, at this point, to embrace the likes of Cochran and Cantor. Whether Cantor was or was not a moderate is irrelevant: he has to be a moderate now, at least in the Dems telling of it. The narrative should be: Republicans are killing off their moderates, those who are trying to make things work. Whether the local candidate is moderate or not, he will be in the caucus with the Brats and McDaniels. It will not hurt the actual Brats and McDaniels, of course, but it can build a narrative useful in more moderate places.
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« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2014, 11:02:44 PM »

The thing is, Murkowski and Lieberman had general appeal to moderates in the state, so a write-in campaign makes sense. Cantor has none, so the idea he would win as an independent is complete nonsense, and I think it would be hard to pretend otherwise unless you were talented at pretending.
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« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2014, 11:07:51 PM »

This is amazing oh my god
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« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2014, 11:13:19 PM »

It would be smart for the the Dems nationwide, at this point, to embrace the likes of Cochran and Cantor. Whether Cantor was or was not a moderate is irrelevant: he has to be a moderate now, at least in the Dems telling of it. The narrative should be: Republicans are killing off their moderates, those who are trying to make things work. Whether the local candidate is moderate or not, he will be in the caucus with the Brats and McDaniels. It will not hurt the actual Brats and McDaniels, of course, but it can build a narrative useful in more moderate places.

One possible comeback to this is that while Cantor and Cochran could be described as having moderate tones for the purposes of this discussion, they were not paying enough attention to their constituents, and would have won their primaries if they had remained in better touch with their voters.
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« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2014, 11:21:52 PM »

It would be smart for the the Dems nationwide, at this point, to embrace the likes of Cochran and Cantor. Whether Cantor was or was not a moderate is irrelevant: he has to be a moderate now, at least in the Dems telling of it. The narrative should be: Republicans are killing off their moderates, those who are trying to make things work. Whether the local candidate is moderate or not, he will be in the caucus with the Brats and McDaniels. It will not hurt the actual Brats and McDaniels, of course, but it can build a narrative useful in more moderate places.

One possible comeback to this is that while Cantor and Cochran could be described as having moderate tones for the purposes of this discussion, they were not paying enough attention to their constituents, and would have won their primaries if they had remained in better touch with their voters.

Their Republican voters, maybe, but not the population at large.  Primary wins can hardly be called representative of how the public feels.  I've also never heard that being used as a comeback before.  Accusing your opponents of being outside the mainstream seems to be more effective.
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« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2014, 11:28:54 PM »


I'm surprised Boehner's sad. His Speakership-long saboteur is finally dead.
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« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2014, 11:29:02 PM »

The purge is on.
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« Reply #70 on: June 10, 2014, 11:29:58 PM »

It would be smart for the the Dems nationwide, at this point, to embrace the likes of Cochran and Cantor. Whether Cantor was or was not a moderate is irrelevant: he has to be a moderate now, at least in the Dems telling of it. The narrative should be: Republicans are killing off their moderates, those who are trying to make things work. Whether the local candidate is moderate or not, he will be in the caucus with the Brats and McDaniels. It will not hurt the actual Brats and McDaniels, of course, but it can build a narrative useful in more moderate places.

One possible comeback to this is that while Cantor and Cochran could be described as having moderate tones for the purposes of this discussion, they were not paying enough attention to their constituents, and would have won their primaries if they had remained in better touch with their voters.

Their Republican voters, maybe, but not the population at large.  Primary wins can hardly be called representative of how the public feels.  I've also never heard that being used as a comeback before.  Accusing your opponents of being outside the mainstream seems to be more effective.

Well, I guess you have a point.

I can see Democrats discussing McDaniel a great deal since he doesn't seem to be in the mainstream by any stretch, but Brat doesn't seem like he will really impact many voters.
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« Reply #71 on: June 10, 2014, 11:30:54 PM »

It would be smart for the the Dems nationwide, at this point, to embrace the likes of Cochran and Cantor. Whether Cantor was or was not a moderate is irrelevant: he has to be a moderate now, at least in the Dems telling of it. The narrative should be: Republicans are killing off their moderates, those who are trying to make things work. Whether the local candidate is moderate or not, he will be in the caucus with the Brats and McDaniels. It will not hurt the actual Brats and McDaniels, of course, but it can build a narrative useful in more moderate places.

Isn't there more than enough evidence of the GOP purging moderates without having to pretend Cantor is one?

He is definitely not in the same group as people like Lugar, Murkowski, Crist...
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« Reply #72 on: June 10, 2014, 11:54:27 PM »


I'm surprised Boehner's sad. His Speakership-long saboteur is finally dead.

Exactly. Good riddance.
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« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2014, 12:11:53 AM »


I'm surprised Boehner's sad. His Speakership-long saboteur is finally dead.

Exactly. Good riddance.

This would be a good opportunity to ask you, TJ - why do you think so highly of Boehner but so little of Cantor?  As I recall, you even had a "Boehner for Congress" banner in your signature not far too long ago, and I'm sure there's more to that than home state loyalty. Tongue
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« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2014, 12:15:39 AM »

Good to see Cantor removed from Congress ... Smiley
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