Can Hillary Clinton run in 2020 if she loses in 2016?
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Mister Mets
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« on: June 08, 2014, 07:17:57 PM »

If Hillary Clinton loses the 2016 General Election, but decides that she still wants to be President, how strong a contender would she be? Under what circumstances would her supporters, and the party, think she deserves another shot? Who would run against her?

She would be one of the oldest candidates ever, but not the oldest. In 2020, she would be several months younger than Bob Dole was in 1996.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2014, 07:26:47 PM »

I don't think either party would re-nominate a general election loser in this day and age.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2014, 07:39:31 PM »

No. She would want to retire.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2014, 08:16:05 PM »

No.  2016 is do or die for her -if she loses, that's the end of her political career. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2014, 09:36:10 PM »

No. Next question.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2014, 07:36:24 AM »

I don't think either party would re-nominate a general election loser in this day and age.
It's a small sample set.

Carter lost 44 states, but the party nominated his Veep. Mondale lost 49 states, so he couldn't recover from that. Dukakis lost 40 states.

Dole and McCain were as old as they could be as presidential nominees. Gore led in polls in 2004, but opted to be a messenger on environmental issues (which has made him pretty wealthy.) Kerry won a weak field in 2004, when it was determined that a war hero would be a good challenger to Bush. In 2008, a white guy who had been in the Senate for 24 years just didn't fit a message of change, although he considered running. There is some chatter about Romney, mainly due to Christie's scandals and questions about Jeb.

The things that make Hillary a strong candidate in 2016 won't all disappear in 2020. She'll still have an impressive resume. She would likely still be in the position to be the first female President. She'll still have friends in high places among fundraisers and party figures. A credible bid doesn't seem inconceivable.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2014, 03:14:10 PM »

2016 is Hillary's last chance, just like 2008 was for McCain and 1996 for Dole. Arguably, she is in better position than those two (who got their turn under unfavorable circumstances), but is she's not an incumbent running for reelection, she's done for 2020.
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2014, 06:52:10 PM »

It won't happen.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 11:42:33 AM »

No. First of all because the two parties usually doesn’t nominate people who have already lost once, at least not in this age.

Second of all because her time will have passed by 2020 if not elected in 2016. Twenty years into the new century the Democrats can’t have as their standard bearer a person from politics of the 1990s.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 08:47:11 PM »

It seems kind of odd for all the advantages Hillary has in 2016 to disappear in 2020. Obviously some things we'll have changed. Losing a general election would hurt her reputation as an electoral powerhouse. I'd expect a more impressive bench in 2020, as Democrats elected during the Obama administration get more experience. And there'll be slightly less nostalgia for the Clinton years with more newer voters. But with a narrow Gore/ Kerry style loss, a plausible run seems possible.

2016 is Hillary's last chance, just like 2008 was for McCain and 1996 for Dole. Arguably, she is in better position than those two (who got their turn under unfavorable circumstances), but is she's not an incumbent running for reelection, she's done for 2020.
A difference with McCain and Dole is that they were both older than Hillary will be in 2016.

I don't know the exact age at which someone's no longer a presidential contender (75 feels like the cutoff for me) but Hillary will not have reached that in November 2020. At least going by previous nominees.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2017, 09:23:00 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2017, 10:12:01 PM »

For dog catcher maybe....
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2017, 10:30:31 PM »

I think it's possible.

She has a legitimacy claim with the popular vote win, and can benefit from a crowded field where she'll have high name recognition.

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2017, 01:11:56 PM »

No. She had her chance and blew it. I mean, she lost to Donald Trump. If Democrats nominate her again, they almost deserve to lose because they have nothing learned. But I see no realistic chance that she runs again. Al Gore had a better position post-2000 and could have won the nomination 2004 again (though we would have probably lost to Dubya again by a similar margin than Kerry did).
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2017, 04:49:58 PM »

Yes, and she still might contrary to the opinions of her political demise.
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2017, 07:00:37 PM »

Yes, and she still might contrary to the opinions of her political demise.

And I will laugh when she gets destroyed in the primary.
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