Chaos is the word used for Freedom that someone doesn't like. True or False?

[Blue3]

Hypothesis:
Chaos=Freedom.
When people like the chaos, they usually call it freedom.
When people dislike the freedom, they usually call it chaos.
One person's chaos is another person's freedom, and vice-versa.


Examples: If you like people being able to use drugs legally, it's freedom. If you dislike it, it's chaos. If you like people being able to marry someone of their own sex, it's freedom. If you dislike it, it's chaos. It's not always binary or ideological, there are some examples that over 99% would regard that freedom as bad, like the freedom to kill others (ex: look at all that chaos in Somalia). But still, freedom is chaos, and chaos is freedom.

My Opinion on it: These words shouldn't have any inherent value in them, but they do. Saying something will "lead to chaos" shouldn't be a serious point, since it's the same thing as saying it will "lead to freedom," but they would probably never use that word if they're against it. Similarly, saying we're "for freedom" or "bringing freedom" shouldn't be a serious point, since it's the same as saying we're "for chaos" or "bringing chaos." It's ok to use the words, but you should be careful and not assume freedom is positive and chaos is negative.

Chaos is the word used for Freedom that someone doesn't like. True or False?

[Antonio the Sixth]

It could as easily be said that one's "freedom" is the chaos he doesn't mind because it doesn't negatively affect them.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

True, but "freedom" is the word used for anarchy that libertarians like.

[Blue3]

For the people voting false... why?

[Deus Naturae]

In some cases, I would agree. But, the term "chaos" is also used to mean disorganization or disorder. There are plenty of example of spontaneous (free) organization/order, and there are also plenty of cases where attempts to forcibly bring about "order" lead to chaos in practice.

[RR1997]

In some cases, I would agree. But, the term "chaos" is also used to mean disorganization or disorder. There are plenty of example of spontaneous (free) organization/order, and there are also plenty of cases where attempts to forcibly bring about "order" lead to chaos in practice.

[GaussLaw]

When libertarians start to support repealing laws against murder and bank robbery, I would vote yes.

[Blue3]

In some cases, I would agree. But, the term "chaos" is also used to mean disorganization or disorder. There are plenty of example of spontaneous (free) organization/order, and there are also plenty of cases where attempts to forcibly bring about "order" lead to chaos in practice.

But isn't disorder/disorganization just freedom that people don't like?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

In some cases, I would agree. But, the term "chaos" is also used to mean disorganization or disorder. There are plenty of example of spontaneous (free) organization/order, and there are also plenty of cases where attempts to forcibly bring about "order" lead to chaos in practice.

But isn't disorder/disorganization just freedom that people don't like?

Disorder and disorganization that are strong enough to impede the ability of people to do what they like is not what I would call "freedom".

[Deus Naturae]

In some cases, I would agree. But, the term "chaos" is also used to mean disorganization or disorder. There are plenty of example of spontaneous (free) organization/order, and there are also plenty of cases where attempts to forcibly bring about "order" lead to chaos in practice.

But isn't disorder/disorganization just freedom that people don't like?

No. It's completely possible for regulated systems to be disorganized and chaotic.