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Simfan34
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« on: June 11, 2014, 10:10:37 AM »

Tikrit has fallen. ISIS is on a lightning offensive towards Baghdad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27800319

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 05:47:29 PM »
« Edited: June 12, 2014, 05:56:14 PM by Simfan34 »

Reason #45 why Saddam Hussein should have been left in power.

I have a feeling that what we'd be seeing had that happened would be far worse than what is happening now. Of course, there'd have been far fewer deaths in the country 2003-10, but after that one assumes there would have been an uprising, just as there was everywhere else, and it would have made Syria's conflict look like a polite disagreement by comparison.

Geopolitically, it would have not been overly helpful. Sure, he might have thrown some water on whatever Iran was trying to do but it wouldn't have been much considering the state the Iraqi forces were due to years of sanctions and no-fly zones. I consider it unlikely we would have seen a pseudo-detente as we did with Syria, unless Saddam was "replaced" by someone else like Addouri.

Saddam would have been far wiser having never invaded Kuwait and turning himself into a pariah, or should have aimed a bit higher and tried to enlist some neighbouring states in an attempt to dismember Saudi Arabia. Which, honestly, would have been easier than it sounds. That, and bringing Shi'ites into the fold of the regime- but that's probably verging on fantasy.
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Simfan34
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2014, 06:23:14 PM »

Reason #45 why Saddam Hussein should have been left in power.

I have a feeling that what we'd be seeing had that happened would be far worse than what is happening now. Of course, there'd have been far fewer deaths in the country 2003-10, but after that one assumes there would have been an uprising, just as there was everywhere else, and it would have made Syria's conflict look like a polite disagreement by comparison.

That is of course assuming that he'd still be alive. He'd have been 77 this year - Stalin died aged 74 and Hafez al-Assad at 69.

Hm. Didn't realise that.

Remember how Chalabi, the dude who lied about Saddam's WMD's, turned out to be an Iranian puppet?

Looks like his masters have come to claim their prize.

This makes zero sense.

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Simfan34
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 12:43:06 PM »

Clearly an Iraq overrun by Islamists and Iranian puppets is so much better than Saddam's Iraq.

This is just the punctuation on the evidence that the foreign policy of George W. Bush, neoconservatism and the Republican Party was and still is a miserable failure of a pipe dream.

Anyone else you'd like to throw in? Condi Rice? Brent Scowcroft? Barney the Dog? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 01:32:58 AM »

Ehh I'll wait for confirmation that one other than a poorly-designed right-wing website.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2014, 09:02:06 AM »

I enjoyed reading that.
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