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« on: June 12, 2014, 11:03:35 AM »
Apparently, things are starting to go south pretty quickly in Iraq, with insurgents reportedly preparing to attack Baghdad. The argument from the right has already become "Obama pulling out of Iraq means that everything our soldiers fought for was for nothing."

How will Iraq play into 2016?
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 02:59:49 PM »
I for one would love to see the Republican campaign on re-invading Iraq.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 03:06:11 PM »
Quote from: JRP1994 on June 12, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
The argument from the right has already become "Obama pulling out of Iraq means that everything our soldiers fought for was for nothing."

This is a ridiculous argument.

Hillary has had to run away from her Iraq vote for about 10 years now. If anything, this will be the issue.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 03:06:59 PM »
I'm expecting there to be a division between the interventionist McCain types and isolationist Paul types in the primaries.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 03:10:18 PM »
Outside of neocons, no American really gives a damn about Iraq. The GOP would have to be even more tone-deaf to try an make this a campaign issue.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 05:34:09 PM »
If Rand runs against Hillary then it could be interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 05:36:36 PM »
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on June 12, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
I'm expecting there to be a division between the interventionist McCain types and isolationist Paul types in the primaries.

lol, keep trying.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 07:11:26 PM »
The only ones that will discuss Iraq is Fox News and Bill O'Reilly who want the U.S. to do something about the 2014 Iraq developments. Yes, Americans are still upset over the long duration of the war, but in 2016 it will be slightly discussed.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 07:53:36 PM »
Northwestern Iraq falling to ISIL is definitely bad news, but the U.S. has no core national security interest in northwestern Iraq. Imagine if Obama had made the decision the hawks now say is the best one and kept troops in Iraq. Right now, they would be fighting ISIL and dying, in a region where the Iraqi government has no support anyway. Basically they would be fighting someone else's civil war. Is that a better option? Right now our veterans are at least home (well, the ones not in Afghanistan anyway). We are out of it. I see no reason why we must be 'in it'.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 08:09:37 PM »
This will be interesting to see. I can see it as one of the ways the establishment candidates try to differentiate from each other.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 08:19:43 PM »
Quote from: IDS Legislator Maxwell on June 12, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on June 12, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
I'm expecting there to be a division between the interventionist McCain types and isolationist Paul types in the primaries.

lol, keep trying.
Apparently not wanting to invade a new county every week makes you an isolationist
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 08:22:14 PM »
« Edited: June 12, 2014, 08:25:50 PM by ShadowOfTheWave »
Quote from: NE Rep SWE on June 12, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Quote from: IDS Legislator Maxwell on June 12, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on June 12, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
I'm expecting there to be a division between the interventionist McCain types and isolationist Paul types in the primaries.

lol, keep trying.
Apparently not wanting to invade a new county every week makes you an isolationist

I wasn't using the term in a derogatory manner. But he is an isolationist.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 08:26:50 PM »
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on June 12, 2014, 08:22:14 PM
Quote from: NE Rep SWE on June 12, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Quote from: IDS Legislator Maxwell on June 12, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on June 12, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
I'm expecting there to be a division between the interventionist McCain types and isolationist Paul types in the primaries.

lol, keep trying.
Apparently not wanting to invade a new county every week makes you an isolationist

I wasn't using the term in a derogatory manner. But he is an isolationist.
No he isn't. Calling a non-interventionist an isolationist is as absurd as calling a liberal a communist.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 08:29:13 PM »
Quote from: NE Rep SWE on June 12, 2014, 08:26:50 PM
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on June 12, 2014, 08:22:14 PM
Quote from: NE Rep SWE on June 12, 2014, 08:19:43 PM
Quote from: IDS Legislator Maxwell on June 12, 2014, 05:36:36 PM
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on June 12, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
I'm expecting there to be a division between the interventionist McCain types and isolationist Paul types in the primaries.

lol, keep trying.
Apparently not wanting to invade a new county every week makes you an isolationist

I wasn't using the term in a derogatory manner. But he is an isolationist.
No he isn't. Calling a non-interventionist an isolationist is as absurd as calling a liberal a communist.

Fine.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 03:02:02 AM »
Hopefully it hurts those who supported the Iraq war, like Hillary.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2014, 05:22:38 PM »
It may affect the Democratic nominee, but Kerry won the nomination in '04 and he voted for the authorization in 2002.
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 11:28:26 AM »
Quote from: bronz4141 on August 10, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
It may affect the Democratic nominee, but Kerry won the nomination in '04 and he voted for the authorization in 2002.
And that was a big part of the reason he lost.
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 03:38:49 PM »
Pretty ridiculous 14 years later this place is still a major issue.
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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 06:02:47 PM »
Quote from: King on August 11, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Pretty ridiculous 14 24 years later this place is still a major issue.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 08:28:27 PM »
Quote from: King on August 11, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Pretty ridiculous 14 years later this place is still a major issue.

Pretty ridiculous that most politicians still haven't learned the lessons from that war.
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2014, 12:20:40 AM »
Quote from: King on August 11, 2014, 03:38:49 PM
Pretty ridiculous 14 years later this place is still a major issue.

One would hope the site of a genocide would be an issue.
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