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Maxwell
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« on: June 13, 2014, 09:35:49 AM »

I am against Tough on Crime measures, and this bill repeals that old statute.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2014, 07:58:08 PM »

I think things that deserve life in prison should get life in prison, not the third felony. I looked at the thread and it seemed like a decent negotiation but I feel like we shouldn't move backwards in reforming our justice system.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2014, 10:53:28 AM »

I think the crime is the crime, and jumping to life for a violent crime, even if the person in question has committed two previous crimes is wrong unless that crime deserved a life sentence.

PiT said something I think may be a compromise - allowing the option for higher sentences in those cases instead of life
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Maxwell
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2014, 12:08:11 AM »

I'll make updates on this bill tomorrow in the form of some amendments.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 05:18:33 PM »

I amend to replace the current text with this new text:

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In addition, I will go through the IDS crime legislation and seeing what else we can change/do differently.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2014, 10:11:21 PM »

What does this body think about limiting the number of crimes that judges are allowed to give Life in Prison to?
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Maxwell
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2014, 11:59:46 PM »

Basically anything but Murder, but I'd be willing to negotiate the rest of you.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2014, 09:50:00 PM »

There are definitely more in US law, but I am going to go through and check federal law to be sure.

And I'd be willing to say murder could be life without parole, and the other two could be up to life with parole under extreme circumstances.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2014, 10:58:31 PM »

I looked into it, and the Prison Reform Act did not go into life sentence stuff. As a result, going by the U.S. standard, and basically murder, rape, child abuse, espionage, treason, vandalism, extreme fraud, and robbery resulting in death.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2014, 02:42:33 PM »

I'd be open to that, cause it sounds interesting, provided that there are limits to how long one can be sentenced under the system. There is a line between rehabilitation and punishment we must follow.
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Maxwell
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E: -6.45, S: -6.96

« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2014, 03:48:11 PM »

I'd be open to that, cause it sounds interesting, provided that there are limits to how long one can be sentenced under the system. There is a line between rehabilitation and punishment we must follow.

I believe the way the system works is having a maximum prison term of 20 years, which can be extended indefinitely in 5-year increments so long as the offender is determined to still be a threat to society.

Okay, well, then I support that. I was wondering about crimes that are less than the worst crimes, if there is still an increment system (like someone getting five years for robbery or something).
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Maxwell
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E: -6.45, S: -6.96

« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2014, 02:34:38 PM »

The extension period seems rather rigid - that may be too much depending on the crime.

Also does the extension add to the 21 years?
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Maxwell
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2014, 10:19:22 PM »

This amendment is friendly. Let's move to a vote.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2014, 03:28:34 PM »

Aye
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Maxwell
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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2014, 12:52:10 AM »

Sounds good to me.
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Maxwell
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2014, 09:19:19 AM »

Aye
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