CA-52/SurveyUSA: Rep. Scott Peters (D) trails Scott DeMaio (R) by 7 (user search)
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Author Topic: CA-52/SurveyUSA: Rep. Scott Peters (D) trails Scott DeMaio (R) by 7  (Read 2092 times)
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« on: June 15, 2014, 10:26:46 AM »

DeMaio won this district by double-digits in 2012 running for another office; Peters just barely edged out his opponent, in spite of how good of a year it was for his party. Peters is easily the most vulnerable Democrat in Obama territory, and probably within the Top Five.

Democratic incumbents don't lose in California.

California spent the last decade under an incumbent-protection gerrymander; 1 incumbent lost total. Until 2012, you could've made the argument that Republican incumbents don't lose (and been just as invalid).

For example, we held CA-11 when it was a gerrymandered mess drawn for a Republican in 2010.

It was a failed dummymander that voted for Obama by 9 points. That you still came perilously close to losing.

This seat isn't like UT-4 or NC-7, it's not some heavily Republican bastion that a Democrat was just lucky to have won, it is an Obama seat and as a D+ PVI.

Your cute little belief that once Democrats have taken a marginal seat, it's theirs forever continues to be both highly entertaining yet a little concerning. This seat is probably Leans R; at best for Democrats it's a Tossup.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 09:41:44 PM »

1. Not understanding the difference between municipal elections and federal ones is an amateur mistake. Last cycle, Louise Slaughter was supposed to lose, because her opponent had won a local election by double digits, but instead, Slaughter won by double digits. Winning big locally does not guarantee that a candidate can win federally.

Louise Slaughter was never "supposed" to lose -- she was always favored; it was thought that Brooks might be able to take advantage of a Democratic meltdown if that occurred. NY-25 is a significantly more Democratic district than CA-52 (NY-25 voted Obama +20; CA-52 voted Obama +6); and Slaughter is a much more entrenched incumbent than Peters, having been first elected in 1986. Nevertheless, Brooks held her to her closest margin since 1992, and did generally credibly. Scott Peters is no Louise Slaughter.

2. CA-11 was still drawn for a Republican, seats with similar numbers in other states fell to Republicans in 2010. The other close contest, CA-20, still resulted in a Democratic hold.

It was, but demographic changes had negated that advantage by 2010. Seats with similar numbers did fall in other states, but seats with similar numbers were also held in other states -- McNerney happened to run a strong campaign, Harmer to some extent took victory for granted, and it was (just barely) enough. CA-20 was a very late-breaking contest that most Republicans didn't realize would be competitive until the last few weeks; Vidak was a no-namer at the time, though he's since parlayed his good performance then into the state legislature.

On a fair map, Democrats chances are even better of holding seats.

On the contrary, your 'fair map' has created a bucketload of marginal districts in a state where there used to be almost none. Both Democrats and Republicans will have to get used to having a lot of those marginal districts (gasp!) shift from party to party during elections. Living under a non-gerrymandered map doesn't make voters like the Democrats more -- in fact all but the most politically in-tune will never realize it.

3. You don't have to be so condescending, but if that's your bag, whatever.

That's rich.

Peters is a non-offensive incumbent and DeMaio isn't even a moderate, that does not suggest Lean Republican.

DeMaio is definitely moderate on social issues; he supports marriage equality (he's also gay) and medicinal marijuana. But that's beside the point -- CA-52 is a swing district where even a strongly conservative Republican could win in a good year; it would just be harder for them (to win and to hold it).

But, when the election results are in, we'll see who is correct.

I'm looking forward to it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2014, 08:12:44 AM »

A strongly socially conservative Republican (except for an immigration hardliner) won't be winning this district any time soon, Vosem.

I don't see one primarying DeMaio either Wink
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