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« on: June 15, 2014, 07:30:46 PM »

Christian natalism is a horrific parody of the values rooted in the Earth. In a thousand years our descendants will regard our religious humanists, and their secular inheritors, as monsters.

What are "values rooted in the Earth"? 
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2014, 10:51:35 PM »

Inaccurate thread title.  Late term abortion was already basically outlawed there, as it is in most and possibly all states.  The bill kept the exception to the ban if a mother's life is at risk or to prevent irreversible physical impairment of a mother's major bodily function. All this bill did was remove the vague indefinable exception of allowing it because of psychological harm to the mother and add to the 24-week standard a standard of that the doctor has to determine that the child would not be viable if taken from the womb intact.

Really, the only reason I can see to oppose the bill is not if you are pro-choice, but because you are pro-abortion.

I don't think there's a set definition of what constitutes "late term abortions" and in several states there are no time restrictions.  Additionally bans on late term abortions may have exceptions for "life and health" that can be interpreted broadly, and in fact such is often considered required under Doe v Bolton.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2014, 12:00:42 AM »

Of course Meursault is right that placing an intrinsic value on human life is sentimental and has an essentially ineffible, numinous quality.  The desert religions have played a role in promoting this, though not with any monopoly.  That sentimentality does not make it false and I see no reason to prefer any other method of valuation on life that is ultimately just as arbitrary if not more so if one attempts a purely rational standard.  Who is to say that contributions or intelligence or social recognition is any objective standard of value?
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