Breaking: Boots to be put on the ground in Iraq (AP)

[Simfan34]

ITT: Socialists cheering on the rise of extremist theocratic reactionaries because they'll stick it to America.

That sound you hear is Marx rolling in his grave.

The 1980s called, they want their imperialist talking points back.

Lecture me more on Marxism when you graduate the ninth grade, kid.

What are you even talking about? Iran? Because, and I know nuance is going to surprise you, but it's entirely possible for people to not like Khomeini/the Islamist revolution while still considering American meddling in Iran, to prop up the Shah they installed against the will of the Iranian people, a bad thing.

And if you're talking about Afghanistan, well, the extremist theocratic reactionaries were on the side of the U.S.. Surprising, considering the "NATO/Al-Qaeda axis" is something you learn about in Kneejerk Anti-Americanism 101.

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[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

ITT: Socialists cheering on the rise of extremist theocratic reactionaries because they'll stick it to America.

That sound you hear is Marx rolling in his grave.

The 1980s called, they want their imperialist talking points back.

Lecture me more on Marxism when you graduate the ninth grade, kid.

What are you even talking about? Iran? Because, and I know nuance is going to surprise you, but it's entirely possible for people to not like Khomeini/the Islamist revolution while still considering American meddling in Iran, to prop up the Shah they installed against the will of the Iranian people, a bad thing.

And if you're talking about Afghanistan, well, the extremist theocratic reactionaries were on the side of the U.S.. Surprising, considering the "NATO/Al-Qaeda axis" is something you learn about in Kneejerk Anti-Americanism 101.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax#U.S._role

[Simfan34]

ITT: Socialists cheering on the rise of extremist theocratic reactionaries because they'll stick it to America.

That sound you hear is Marx rolling in his grave.

The 1980s called, they want their imperialist talking points back.

Lecture me more on Marxism when you graduate the ninth grade, kid.

What are you even talking about? Iran? Because, and I know nuance is going to surprise you, but it's entirely possible for people to not like Khomeini/the Islamist revolution while still considering American meddling in Iran, to prop up the Shah they installed against the will of the Iranian people, a bad thing.

And if you're talking about Afghanistan, well, the extremist theocratic reactionaries were on the side of the U.S.. Surprising, considering the "NATO/Al-Qaeda axis" is something you learn about in Kneejerk Anti-Americanism 101.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax#U.S._role

I'm not going to repeat myself every time this comes up. You can search my prior posts for my views on this topic.

[The Free North]

1) Invade Iraq, overthrow Sunni dictator

2) Create political system that puts shiite's disproportionally in power

3) Sunnis get mad, revolt

4) Go back into Iraq, wonder why they just can't play nice

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Added some

-1. Sell Sunni dictator WMD

0. Assume he still has the WMD and use them as justification for war

1) Invade Iraq, overthrow Sunni dictator

2) Create political system that puts shiite's disproportionally in power

3) Sunnis get mad, revolt

4) Go back into Iraq, wonder why they just can't play nice

[Lief 🗽]

Good news folks! Obama is readying the drones!

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/18/world/middleeast/obama-is-said-to-consider-selective-airstrikes-on-sunni-militants.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimesworld&_r=0

[Del Tachi]

This is the wrong decision.  We have wasted too much blood and treasure there.  Just let the country fall.  Nothing we can do here.

To throw away a one trillion dollar, ten-plus year investment does seem like an awful waste of blood and treasure.  It be easier and less costly to save Iraq now than wait for another ten or fifteen years and have to deal with Operation Iraqi Freedom 2.0

[badgate]

Boots to put on the ground in Iraq? Poor monkey.

BOOTS has spotted an infidel!

What should Boots do?
a) Give him a sandwich
b) Ask him when his birthday is
c) Geotag his location so that a drone can take them both out

[All Along The Watchtower]

You must be logged in to read this quote.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/20/us/obama-to-address-nation-on-iraq-crisis.html?_r=0

Watch the address live: http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/press-briefing-principal-deputy-press-secretary-josh-earnest-10

The speech has been delayed-Obama's meeting with his national security team has gone longer than expected.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

We are sending one hundred special forces troops to take part in combat and advise the Iraqi army according to CNN. No idea if they will leave Baghdad or not.

Like I said, we need to be evacuating our embassy and let the chips fall as they need, not sending in groups of one hundred men to key points of American interest.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Obama will be speaking at 1:15 EDT (if anyone cares).

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Obama will be speaking at 1:15 EDT (if anyone cares).

Keeps getting pushed back for some reason (just like the UBL speech, for what ever it's worth), so I wonder if the announcement is going to be "big" or just another "hey guys, it's Barack Obama, and I just want the American people to know that I am monitoring the events in Iraq yada yada bing wing ding" voicemail type speech.