What would be the most Clinton/ Gore amplification type ticket possible in 2016?

[Mister Mets]

Someone else asked "What would be the most Kennedy/Johnsonesque, balancing ticket imaginable in 2016?"

But there is another prototype for presidential tickets: Clinton/ Gore from when Democrats nominated a well-educated young Southerner for President, and he chose a well-educated young southern running mate. There was still some diversity of experience with a Governor picking a Senator, but the main effect was amplification.

It seems to work best with voting groups that have gone to the other party. Papa Bush had won Arkansas and Tennessee by a higher margin than he won the rest of the country in 1988, so putting those states in play was valuable for Democrats. A New York/ New Jersey ticket wouldn't make as much sense for Democrats, nor would a Kentucky/ West Virginia ticket be the best move for Republicans.

So what kind of potential tickets fit this mold? Some that I've come up with...

Paul Ryan/ Marco Rubio: Young Catholic swing-state wonks.

Chris Christie/ Susanna Martinez: Prosecutors turned Governors with crossover appeal.

Chris Christie/ Kelly Ayotte: Northeastern prosecutors elected to statewide office during the Obama administration.

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There are only two correct answers:

Joe Manchin / Steven Beshear

Brian Schweitzer / Heidi Heitkamp

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Hillary Clinton / Kirsten Gillebrand

Paul Ryan / Scott Walker

Are you a troll?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Hillary Clinton / Kirsten Gillebrand

Paul Ryan / Scott Walker

Are you a troll?

Why do you think I'm a troll? Scott Walker and Paul Ryan are both fiscal conservatives who are popular with movement conservatives, both are young, white, and male, and both are from Wisconsin.  Meanwhile, Hillary and Kirsten are both prominent Democratic women, both are hawkish, both have big connections to Wall Street, and both are from New York.  The Scott Walker and Paul Ryan ticket could put Wisconsin into play for the Republicans while the Clinton/Gillebrand ticket might help reinforce New Jersey and PA if theRepublican's opt for Christ Christie.  Both of those tickets represent attempts at amplification in the ticket.  

There are constitutional problems with both members of a ticket being from the same state, namely that they can't both win that particular state's electoral votes.

[Mister Mets]

On the Democratic side, a New York/ New Jersey ticket would usually be weak. However, Kirsten Gilibrand and Cory Booker would be two young Senators reflecting diversity.

Hillary Clinton / Kirsten Gillebrand

Paul Ryan / Scott Walker

Are you a troll?

Why do you think I'm a troll? Scott Walker and Paul Ryan are both fiscal conservatives who are popular with movement conservatives, both are young, white, and male, and both are from Wisconsin.  Meanwhile, Hillary and Kirsten are both prominent Democratic women, both are hawkish, both have big connections to Wall Street, and both are from New York.  The Scott Walker and Paul Ryan ticket could put Wisconsin into play for the Republicans while the Clinton/Gillebrand ticket might help reinforce New Jersey and PA if theRepublican's opt for Christ Christie.  Both of those tickets represent attempts at amplification in the ticket.  

There are constitutional problems with both members of a ticket being from the same state, namely that they can't both win that particular state's electoral votes.

There are some ways around that.

HRC could change her voter registration, just as Dick Cheney went from being a resident of Texas to being a resident of Wyoming.

In 1968, Nixon's residence was in New York but he had the option of switching to California, so he was able to consider Californians and New Yorkers for Veep.

As sitting officeholders, Ryan and Walker are in a different position. Wisconsin would be unlikely to be the state that determines the presidential election, although it might be several points more conservative than the rest of the nation with an entirely cheesehead ticket.

We don't know the legal challenges, or the media response to a ticket consisting of officeholders from one state, so that may be a complication to avoid.

[H. Ross Peron]

Clinton/Warren

Sandoval/Martinez

Biden/Schweitzer

Sanders/Schweitzer

[NHLiberal]

Someone else asked "What would be the most Kennedy/Johnsonesque, balancing ticket imaginable in 2016?"

But there is another prototype for presidential tickets: Clinton/ Gore from when Democrats nominated a well-educated young Southerner for President, and he chose a well-educated young southern running mate. There was still some diversity of experience with a Governor picking a Senator, but the main effect was amplification.

It seems to work best with voting groups that have gone to the other party. Papa Bush had won Arkansas and Tennessee by a higher margin than he won the rest of the country in 1988, so putting those states in play was valuable for Democrats. A New York/ New Jersey ticket wouldn't make as much sense for Democrats, nor would a Kentucky/ West Virginia ticket be the best move for Republicans.

So what kind of potential tickets fit this mold? Some that I've come up with...

Paul Ryan/ Marco Rubio: Young Catholic swing-state wonks.

Chris Christie/ Susanna Martinez: Prosecutors turned Governors with crossover appeal.

Chris Christie/ Kelly Ayotte: Northeastern prosecutors elected to statewide office during the Obama administration.

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Someone else asked "What would be the most Kennedy/Johnsonesque, balancing ticket imaginable in 2016?"

But there is another prototype for presidential tickets: Clinton/ Gore from when Democrats nominated a well-educated young Southerner for President, and he chose a well-educated young southern running mate. There was still some diversity of experience with a Governor picking a Senator, but the main effect was amplification.

It seems to work best with voting groups that have gone to the other party. Papa Bush had won Arkansas and Tennessee by a higher margin than he won the rest of the country in 1988, so putting those states in play was valuable for Democrats. A New York/ New Jersey ticket wouldn't make as much sense for Democrats, nor would a Kentucky/ West Virginia ticket be the best move for Republicans.

So what kind of potential tickets fit this mold? Some that I've come up with...

Paul Ryan/ Marco Rubio: Young Catholic swing-state wonks.

Chris Christie/ Susanna Martinez: Prosecutors turned Governors with crossover appeal.

Chris Christie/ Kelly Ayotte: Northeastern prosecutors elected to statewide office during the Obama administration.

...

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Jindal/Haley

[Mister Mets]

Someone else asked "What would be the most Kennedy/Johnsonesque, balancing ticket imaginable in 2016?"

But there is another prototype for presidential tickets: Clinton/ Gore from when Democrats nominated a well-educated young Southerner for President, and he chose a well-educated young southern running mate. There was still some diversity of experience with a Governor picking a Senator, but the main effect was amplification.

It seems to work best with voting groups that have gone to the other party. Papa Bush had won Arkansas and Tennessee by a higher margin than he won the rest of the country in 1988, so putting those states in play was valuable for Democrats. A New York/ New Jersey ticket wouldn't make as much sense for Democrats, nor would a Kentucky/ West Virginia ticket be the best move for Republicans.

So what kind of potential tickets fit this mold? Some that I've come up with...

Paul Ryan/ Marco Rubio: Young Catholic swing-state wonks.

Chris Christie/ Susanna Martinez: Prosecutors turned Governors with crossover appeal.

Chris Christie/ Kelly Ayotte: Northeastern prosecutors elected to statewide office during the Obama administration.

...

Someone else asked "What would be the most Kennedy/Johnsonesque, balancing ticket imaginable in 2016?"

But there is another prototype for presidential tickets: Clinton/ Gore from when Democrats nominated a well-educated young Southerner for President, and he chose a well-educated young southern running mate. There was still some diversity of experience with a Governor picking a Senator, but the main effect was amplification.

It seems to work best with voting groups that have gone to the other party. Papa Bush had won Arkansas and Tennessee by a higher margin than he won the rest of the country in 1988, so putting those states in play was valuable for Democrats. A New York/ New Jersey ticket wouldn't make as much sense for Democrats, nor would a Kentucky/ West Virginia ticket be the best move for Republicans.

So what kind of potential tickets fit this mold? Some that I've come up with...

Paul Ryan/ Marco Rubio: Young Catholic swing-state wonks.

Chris Christie/ Susanna Martinez: Prosecutors turned Governors with crossover appeal.

Chris Christie/ Kelly Ayotte: Northeastern prosecutors elected to statewide office during the Obama administration.

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Rubio wrote a book on policy while Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives.

Wisconsin was pretty close to the popular vote in 2012 (and also in 2000 and 2004.)

[Napoleon]

Trump/Romney. If you read the Romney megathread I already made ththis comparison.

[retromike22]

Wouldn't it be Hillary Clinton/Al Gore?

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Hillary Clinton / Kirsten Gillebrand

Paul Ryan / Scott Walker

Are you a troll?

Why do you think I'm a troll? Scott Walker and Paul Ryan are both fiscal conservatives who are popular with movement conservatives, both are young, white, and male, and both are from Wisconsin.  Meanwhile, Hillary and Kirsten are both prominent Democratic women, both are hawkish, both have big connections to Wall Street, and both are from New York.  The Scott Walker and Paul Ryan ticket could put Wisconsin into play for the Republicans while the Clinton/Gillebrand ticket might help reinforce New Jersey and PA if theRepublican's opt for Christ Christie.  Both of those tickets represent attempts at amplification in the ticket.  

There are constitutional problems with both members of a ticket being from the same state, namely that they can't both win that particular state's electoral votes.

It's easy to register in a different state. We had a 2 Texas oilmen ticket in 2000.

[NHLiberal]

Hillary Clinton / Kirsten Gillebrand

Paul Ryan / Scott Walker

Are you a troll?

Why do you think I'm a troll? Scott Walker and Paul Ryan are both fiscal conservatives who are popular with movement conservatives, both are young, white, and male, and both are from Wisconsin.  Meanwhile, Hillary and Kirsten are both prominent Democratic women, both are hawkish, both have big connections to Wall Street, and both are from New York.  The Scott Walker and Paul Ryan ticket could put Wisconsin into play for the Republicans while the Clinton/Gillebrand ticket might help reinforce New Jersey and PA if theRepublican's opt for Christ Christie.  Both of those tickets represent attempts at amplification in the ticket.  

There are constitutional problems with both members of a ticket being from the same state, namely that they can't both win that particular state's electoral votes.

It's easy to register in a different state. We had a 2 Texas oilmen ticket in 2000.

Yes but you can't just arbitrarily do so. Cheney had at least some legitimate Wyoming connection; he had, after all, represented that state in the House. What would Clinton do, register in Arkansas? And neither of the Cheesemen could get away with registering in another state...

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Hillary Clinton / Kirsten Gillebrand

Paul Ryan / Scott Walker

Are you a troll?

Why do you think I'm a troll? Scott Walker and Paul Ryan are both fiscal conservatives who are popular with movement conservatives, both are young, white, and male, and both are from Wisconsin.  Meanwhile, Hillary and Kirsten are both prominent Democratic women, both are hawkish, both have big connections to Wall Street, and both are from New York.  The Scott Walker and Paul Ryan ticket could put Wisconsin into play for the Republicans while the Clinton/Gillebrand ticket might help reinforce New Jersey and PA if theRepublican's opt for Christ Christie.  Both of those tickets represent attempts at amplification in the ticket.  

There are constitutional problems with both members of a ticket being from the same state, namely that they can't both win that particular state's electoral votes.

It's easy to register in a different state. We had a 2 Texas oilmen ticket in 2000.

Yes but you can't just arbitrarily do so. Cheney had at least some legitimate Wyoming connection; he had, after all, represented that state in the House. What would Clinton do, register in Arkansas? And neither of the Cheesemen could get away with registering in another state...

DC would always work since the Clintons own a house there.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Brian Sandoval/Susanna Martinez - well-liked, moderate Republican governors with latin roots from a region where the Dems are making big gains. It does leave the GOP vulnerable a bit in the south and midwest, but it could be a good ticket in a year when the GOP is looking fairly strong.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Brian Sandoval/Susanna Martinez - well-liked, moderate Republican governors with latin roots from a region where the Dems are making big gains. It does leave the GOP vulnerable a bit in the south and midwest, but it could be a good ticket in a year when the GOP is looking fairly strong.

Susana has videos online of her doing target practice with a handgun. She'd do fine in the South.

[Suburbia]

Mike Pence/John Thune-Two classic heartland leaders, could appeal to all regions of the country.
or
Bernie Sanders/Brian Schweitzer-Two no-nonsense leaders from different regions, but could represent the voice of disillusioned Americans.