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« on: June 22, 2014, 09:54:02 PM »

This fellow had seemed annoyingly rehearsed..... but he is doing a great job at perfecting his pitch. I am sorry if this thread is repetitive, but I urge you to see this video- to the Iowa Democratic Party,to which he has been making more outreach then any other candidate according to what I read

If Hillary does not run, I believe we may have a frontrunner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70euQTmzzo8
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2014, 09:55:37 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2014, 11:03:08 PM by ShadowOfTheWave »

America will not vote for the Governor of Maryland.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2014, 10:26:33 PM »

America will not for the Governor of Maryland.

America will not vote for a candidate who'd make our absurd debt even worse, so agreed.
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2014, 10:37:43 PM »

If Hillary doesn't run I could definitely see a showdown between Martin O'Malley and Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2014, 10:38:58 PM »

Wonderful speech. Smiley

He seemed so much more comfortable than I've ever seen him before.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2014, 10:41:23 PM »

We are going to give (fill in state) a fresh start by electing (fill in name) for (fill in office).

Time for a fresh speech, Martin.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 09:11:45 AM »

I could see him being the frontrunner if Hillary declines to run. But some people view him as unelectable, very bland, foolish, and some people view him as another Mondale-Dukakis for some reason, but if he runs, he'll be a tough challenger.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2014, 09:51:14 AM »

Well-rehearsed, not offensive, experienced enough. Kinda reminds me of this guy:

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2014, 09:56:50 AM »

Well-rehearsed, not offensive, experienced enough. Kinda reminds me of this guy:


I guess so; it's better for some candidates be like O'Malley or Pawlenty, just don't make waves.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2014, 11:08:13 AM »

Unless the Republicans run someone like Cruz/Santorum (etc.), O'Malley really shouldn't be that hard to beat.  He's rather uninspiring, and I don't think he'll come across positively in swing states. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2014, 11:08:51 AM »

A Pawlenty vs O'Malley race would actually be incredibly healthy for America. The cult of personality has poisoned every aspect of the US, including politics. People might actually have to pay attention to the issues!
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2014, 11:18:29 AM »

Unless the Republicans run someone like Cruz/Santorum (etc.), O'Malley really shouldn't be that hard to beat.  He's rather uninspiring, and I don't think he'll come across positively in swing states.  

I think he'll be a much more formidable candidate than Joe Biden at least. Not that that is saying very much though, knowing that Biden might very well lose in a landslide margin of possibly more than 10%. I think O'Malley could make the race very competitive though, think Bush/Gore 2000. It would probably be a race that would be decided by a margin of less than 3%, either way. Of course, up until now, O'Malley is more or less totally unknown to the general public.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2014, 11:33:27 AM »

Unless the Republicans run someone like Cruz/Santorum (etc.), O'Malley really shouldn't be that hard to beat.  He's rather uninspiring, and I don't think he'll come across positively in swing states. 

I think he'll be a much more formidable candidate than Joe Biden at least. Not that that is saying very much though, knowing that Biden might very well lose in a landslide margin of possibly more than 10%. I think O'Malley could make the race very competitive though, think Bush/Gore 2000. It would probably be a race that would be decided by a margin of less than 3%, either way. Of course, up until now, O'Malley is more or less totally unknown to the general public.

Biden would win comfortably you reprobate.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2014, 11:36:01 AM »

I can understand why someone would see Biden as a weak candidate, but the idea that he'd do worse than O'Malley or that Republicans have a candidate strong enough to win by ten points is just absurd.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2014, 11:54:22 AM »
« Edited: June 23, 2014, 11:59:18 AM by eric82oslo »

I can understand why someone would see Biden as a weak candidate, but the idea that he'd do worse than O'Malley or that Republicans have a candidate strong enough to win by ten points is just absurd.

Biden is just the biggest gaffe-machine of them all, even bigger than Schweitzer. Almost everything he says seems to come out wrong. O'Malley on the other hand is always on message. In the past I'd say that both of them have come across as very awkward to me, however, it seems like O'Malley has worked a whole lot on toning down his awkward side lately. The biggest difference however is of course that Biden would have to run on a platform constantly defending everything the Obama administration did. Just like Cheney would have lost in a 20% margin (or more) landslide had he run in 2008, Biden would also be a heavy underdog in 2016. However, O'Malley could do as McCain and run on his own very strong executive record, both in Baltimore and greater Maryland. O'Malley has done what very few other Democratic governors or leaders have done for the past decade; actually implementing almost the entire Democratic platform in his state. From 10.10 dollar minimum wage to being among the first to implement same-sex marriage to innovation of the economy and educational standards to a very successful battle against organized crime in Baltimore to so many other major reforms. He's simply been extremely effective. Effectiveness should count for something as well, even if you're not the single person best fitted to win over viewers on Oprah or other talkshows.
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« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2014, 12:07:59 PM »

America will not vote for the Governor of Maryland.

Why is that? We elected the Governor of Texas and a Senator from Illinois.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2014, 12:32:12 PM »

What exactly does O'Malley bring to the table?  Why is he even discussed as a contender? 

He is not from a large state, or a swing state, he hasn't really done anything amazing as Governor as far as I can tell.  As someone who lives near Maryland it seems like it's gotten more dangerous since he's been Governor (with the exception of parts of Baltimore)...  So what has he really done other than put casinos in a bunch of shopping malls in the state?
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« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2014, 12:54:11 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2014, 05:52:59 PM by SJoyce »

What exactly does O'Malley bring to the table?  Why is he even discussed as a contender? 

He is the physical embodiment of 'Generic Dem'. He has little charisma and there's not much notable about him other than his support of the Democratic platform.
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2014, 01:26:36 PM »

What exactly does O'Malley bring to the table?  Why is he even discussed as a contender? 

He is not from a large state, or a swing state, he hasn't really done anything amazing as Governor as far as I can tell.  As someone who lives near Maryland it seems like it's gotten more dangerous since he's been Governor (with the exception of parts of Baltimore)...  So what has he really done other than put casinos in a bunch of shopping malls in the state?
From what I understand he has a pretty good record as governor that should make progressives love him, including a minimum wage increase, passing the DREAM Act, legalizing same-sex marriage, increasing gun control, and abolishing the death penalty.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2014, 01:46:02 PM »

What exactly does O'Malley bring to the table?  Why is he even discussed as a contender? 

He is not from a large state, or a swing state, he hasn't really done anything amazing as Governor as far as I can tell.  As someone who lives near Maryland it seems like it's gotten more dangerous since he's been Governor (with the exception of parts of Baltimore)...  So what has he really done other than put casinos in a bunch of shopping malls in the state?
From what I understand he has a pretty good record as governor that should make progressives love him, including a minimum wage increase, passing the DREAM Act, legalizing same-sex marriage, increasing gun control, and abolishing the death penalty.

This. Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2014, 02:21:42 PM »

Unless the Republicans run someone like Cruz/Santorum (etc.), O'Malley really shouldn't be that hard to beat.  He's rather uninspiring, and I don't think he'll come across positively in swing states.  

I think he'll be a much more formidable candidate than Joe Biden at least. Not that that is saying very much though, knowing that Biden might very well lose in a landslide margin of possibly more than 10%. I think O'Malley could make the race very competitive though, think Bush/Gore 2000. It would probably be a race that would be decided by a margin of less than 3%, either way. Of course, up until now, O'Malley is more or less totally unknown to the general public.

Biden would win comfortably you reprobate.

Said no one, ever.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2014, 02:28:32 PM »

Unless the Republicans run someone like Cruz/Santorum (etc.), O'Malley really shouldn't be that hard to beat.  He's rather uninspiring, and I don't think he'll come across positively in swing states.  

I think he'll be a much more formidable candidate than Joe Biden at least. Not that that is saying very much though, knowing that Biden might very well lose in a landslide margin of possibly more than 10%. I think O'Malley could make the race very competitive though, think Bush/Gore 2000. It would probably be a race that would be decided by a margin of less than 3%, either way. Of course, up until now, O'Malley is more or less totally unknown to the general public.

Biden would win comfortably you reprobate.

Said no one, ever.

Bulls**t. Except of total fringes, it's simply impossible to predict at this stage that someone is definitively going to win or lose badly.

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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2014, 02:36:27 PM »

The failed health exchange is a serious blemish on his record. It's a sign of huge incompetence on his part he would need to explain how $200M of taxpayer money was wasted on the exchange under his watch.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2014, 05:29:27 PM »

Returning to O'Malley, I really have nothing against him. In fact, I like his record as Governor of Maryland, but I fail to see anything special about him. Most importantly, he doesn't have a hit of charisma needed in national election. Say whatever you want about Biden, Schweitzer or Cuomo, but they are not bland. I'm afraid O'Malley is just bland.
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2014, 06:06:57 PM »

How would O'Malley do in polling against a good Republican candidate? Would his blandness tune voters out and would his fairly decent record be ignored due to his "rain tax" and his very, very generic brand?
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