Windjammer senators vote ratings (foreign scores and activity scores revealed)

[windjammer]

Well, now I'm elected, I guess it's time to reveal a big project I have in mind: analyzing how our dear senators vote. Globally this: http://www.nationaljournal.com/2013-vote-ratings

This will be simple, I will make 4 scores for each senator:
-Are they active? The first score would just show if they often miss the votes or not. If the senator gets 100% for this score, it would mean that he wouldn't have missed a single vote.
-Economy: I will analyze as well how they vote on economic issues. If the senator gets 100%, it would mean that he always votes like a progressist would vote. If the senator gets 0%. It would mean he would always vote like a fiscal conservative would do.
-Same thing for social issues, and foreign issues!


Have you any questions?

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

sounds good, i'm certainly interested in seeing how this turns out.

[SWE]

I was thinking of doing something like this, but you beat me to the punch

How will you define whether a bill is progressive or conservative?

[windjammer]

I was thinking of doing something like this, but you beat me to the punch

How will you define whether a bill is progressive or conservative?

Well, by myself . I mean, if a bill for instance, wants to cut the income tax, I will obviously consider that as a conservative bill .

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I like this...

[Prince of Salem]

I support this 100%

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Are you trying to get me teabagged? Just kidding! I like this man.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Sounds like it could be pretty cool. Will you be doing amendments as well as final votes?

[Sec. of State Superique]

This Economic things looks weird... You can be a progressive and not stupid enough to raise expenditures until the country go Bankrupt...

[President Tyrion]

I would enjoy this.

This Economic things looks weird... You can be a progressive and not stupid enough to raise expenditures until the country go Bankrupt...

Presumably, the goal isn't to be at either extreme (unless you're TNF).

[windjammer]

Sounds like it could be pretty cool. Will you be doing amendments as well as final votes?

Good question! While I believe a final vote is more important than an amendment to a bill, amendments are still useful in order to determinate if the senator is moderate, progressive, conservative for Atlasian standards. Indeed, amendments (to a bill) are often more partisan than the final vote.
So, what I plan to do for that: I give 1 point for an amendment to a bill, and 3 for the final vote! Any suggestion will obviously be welcome .

This Economic things looks weird... You can be a progressive and not stupid enough to raise expenditures until the country go Bankrupt...

Superique, I don't understand the problem. My project won't make any judgement like this: "this senator is a bad senator". I want to analyze how conservative, progressive senators are by Atlasian standards.

I like this...

I support this 100%

I would enjoy this.

This Economic things looks weird... You can be a progressive and not stupid enough to raise expenditures until the country go Bankrupt...

Presumably, the goal isn't to be at either extreme (unless you're TNF).

Thank you all .

Are you trying to get me teabagged? Just kidding! I like this man.

You raise a good point . I don't plan to only analyze the vote of the senators. I plan to do basically the same project of primary colors: http://primarycolors.net/senate/
How conservative, progressive,..; you are compared with your region.
For instance, a typical Fed from the Mideast will be more socially conservative and less economically moderate than a typical Fed from the South!
And a typical Laborite senator in the Northeast will be less fiscal progressive than a typical Laborite senator in the MW/PA.

This will be much more difficult to do that, but as I love math, I'm ready to try .

However, even if I plan to determinate progressive value/conservative value of the senator, like primary color, I won't make however the "should be primaried/good federalist,...". Why? For two reasons:
1) I know I will make mistakes.
2) And openly advocating to primary senators, how to say, they could be quite angry against me, and considering my future position, I prefer to keep good relations with everyone .

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

With the expection of Spiral, True Con, and maybe Franzl, in my time, most Mideast Senators have generally been populist to some extent (Ben, HappyWarrior, Tmth, HappyWarrior, Ben, TJ, and now DC al Fine somewhat. Did I mention Ben?).

[windjammer]

With the expection of Spiral, True Con, and maybe Franzl, in my time, most Mideast Senators have generally been populist to some extent (Ben, HappyWarrior, Tmth, HappyWarrior, Ben, TJ, and now DC al Fine somewhat. Did I mention Ben?).

Yep, that's why I believe a fed from the Mmideast would be more socially conservative and less economically conservative than a fed from the South .

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Unless that Fed from the South is a former rust belter from Pennsylvania.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Sounds like it could be pretty cool. Will you be doing amendments as well as final votes?

Good question! While I believe a final vote is more important than an amendment to a bill, amendments are still useful in order to determinate if the senator is moderate, progressive, conservative for Atlasian standards. Indeed, amendments (to a bill) are often more partisan than the final vote.
So, what I plan to do for that: I give 1 point for an amendment to a bill, and 3 for the final vote! Any suggestion will obviously be welcome .

Something to keep in mind, there is the complication of the final vote before and after a presidential redraft.  If you score the redraft vote, it can be hard to determine whether to count it as a vote for the bill itself, or just for redrafting the bill, as these can suggest different ideological positions.

[windjammer]

Sounds like it could be pretty cool. Will you be doing amendments as well as final votes?

Good question! While I believe a final vote is more important than an amendment to a bill, amendments are still useful in order to determinate if the senator is moderate, progressive, conservative for Atlasian standards. Indeed, amendments (to a bill) are often more partisan than the final vote.
So, what I plan to do for that: I give 1 point for an amendment to a bill, and 3 for the final vote! Any suggestion will obviously be welcome .

Something to keep in mind, there is the complication of the final vote before and after a presidential redraft.  If you score the redraft vote, it can be hard to determine whether to count it as a vote for the bill itself, or just for redrafting the bill, as these can suggest different ideological positions.

Hmmm, you raise a good point.
Since I plan to give 3 points for the final text. If there is a redraft, maybe giving 2 points for the final vote, and 1 point for the redraft vote???

[Poirot]

On scoring missing votes, I think some voting period end when a number of votes is reached (like in Atlasian time bill).  Perhaps senators can miss votes because of undetermined voting period.

Vote ratings could be interesting but people need to understand it can be subjective.   

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Sounds like it could be pretty cool. Will you be doing amendments as well as final votes?

Good question! While I believe a final vote is more important than an amendment to a bill, amendments are still useful in order to determinate if the senator is moderate, progressive, conservative for Atlasian standards. Indeed, amendments (to a bill) are often more partisan than the final vote.
So, what I plan to do for that: I give 1 point for an amendment to a bill, and 3 for the final vote! Any suggestion will obviously be welcome .

Something to keep in mind, there is the complication of the final vote before and after a presidential redraft.  If you score the redraft vote, it can be hard to determine whether to count it as a vote for the bill itself, or just for redrafting the bill, as these can suggest different ideological positions.

Hmmm, you raise a good point.
Since I plan to give 3 points for the final text. If there is a redraft, maybe giving 2 points for the final vote, and 1 point for the redraft vote???

What I mean is the intent behind a redraft vote itself is very hard to interpret. If I were doing it I would count only the pre-redraft vote.

[Deus Naturae]

Will hawkish or dovish votes result in a higher foreign policy score?

[windjammer]

Will hawkish or dovish votes result in a higher foreign policy score?

Not really.
A pure hawkish would get 0%, a pure libertarian on foreign issues would get 100%.

[windjammer]

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I consider this amendment as LIBERTARIAN

On foreign issues:
-TNF, Bore and Tyrion get 1 point
-Lumine, Alfred and NC Yankee get 0 point.
- DC, Goldwater, Griffin and shua have failed to vote in time.

[bore]

Thanks for this.

One thing though, if the senators expressed how they would vote, even if they didn't vote legally like Griffin and shua did, I think it would help get a general idea of where they stand if you included that

[windjammer]

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I consider this bill as economically progressive.
On economic issues:
-Alfred gets 0 point
-DC, Shua, Goldwater, Tyrion, Lumine, Yankee, Bore and Yankee get 3 points.
-Griffin and TNF have failed to vote in time.


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This is a good idea Bore! But the problem is that it could complicate a bit my calculus . But I will try to do that!
Thanks!

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Since I have the most points, do I win the Senate?

[sentinel]

This is weird.