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Question: Are you ready
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Yes, I am ready
 
#2
No, but I will be ready once she officially announces
 
#3
No, but I will be ready once she wins all the primaries
 
#4
No, but I will be ready by Election Day
 
#5
No, I will never be ready. I will be left behind by the Hillary Express
 
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« on: June 24, 2014, 05:33:55 PM »

This is a useless thread but I want to procrastinate so you got me.

As president, she'll perform similarly to Bill and Obama. As far as the election, hopefully GOP primary mayhem will bring relief from a likely boring D primary and general election.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 11:55:05 PM »

I'm ready for all the coronation hype to die once she declines.

What on Earth gives you the idea she wouldn't run?
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 08:24:02 AM »

I'm ready for all the coronation hype to die once she declines.

If you had asked me in 2012, I would have insisted she wouldn't run. It just didn't seem as likely then? I can't exactly explain what changed, but now, I think it's pretty obvious she's running.

What changed is that in 2012 she was consistently denying that she would run, and now she isn't.


I thought that was earlier in Obama's term. Even then there was no reason to take the denials at face value because she going to deny it even if she were running. Also, her denials were often non-denial denials. Think it's been clear since at least 2011 she'd run.
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 10:18:38 AM »

I'm ready for all the coronation hype to die once she declines.

If you had asked me in 2012, I would have insisted she wouldn't run. It just didn't seem as likely then? I can't exactly explain what changed, but now, I think it's pretty obvious she's running.

What changed is that in 2012 she was consistently denying that she would run, and now she isn't.


I thought that was earlier in Obama's term. Even then there was no reason to take the denials at face value because she going to deny it even if she were running. Also, her denials were often non-denial denials. Think it's been clear since at least 2011 she'd run.

This is what she was saying as late as October 2012:


In a separate interview the same month, she said "I have ruled it out":

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/10/clinton-definitely-leaving-politics-or-may-stay.html


Yeah, but I don't know, expressing interest in returning to private life is barely a denial at all and "I've ruled it out" also seems par for the course for someone who wants to be coy as long as she can.


Here's what I had after about a year of Obama's presidency.

I think she'll step down at the end of 2012, write a book for 5 million dollars, campaign for Democrats in 2014 and use that election as a gauge of political winds.  If they portend well for Democrats, I'd say it's better than 50-50 she runs.

Not too bad.
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