SENATE BILL: Sanity in Foreign Policy Amendment (Veto Override Failed)

[Lumine]

There are circumstances under which I would support a modification of clause 2 to define weapons of war and foreign nations - because there is legit business that goes on (and it probably should be amended, but I don't want a war hawk to do it), but the rest of it seeks to essentially ban both gun running and state building, and no one in Atlasia should be associated with gun running. It's bound to create more problems than it ever could solutions, and these kinds of things only create more enemies. At the end of the day, we have more enemies than we had perviously. I would also question where or not it is our responsibility to train fighting forces around the world. So, I do not support repealing the Actual End to Imperialism Act. I would support a rational, conscientious amendment to clause 2, however.

A war hawk shouldn't do it? That's a bit harsh, Mr. President-Elect, don't you think? That Atlasia has made a lot of blunders in the past decades is a hard truth, we had allies that we turned into enemies because of bad decisions, but that shouldn't mean that we can just severly reduce our available options. It's not our responsibility to train forces, but I think we should, I think that's bound to have a positive effect for our allies (or for Palestine, for example, which will need help with their security forces), and, as in any issue related to foreign policy, not doing it means someone else will, which is certainly not always positive.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Status: Objection filed by Senators TNF, a vote is now open on the above Amendment. Senators please vote, Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I should have just changed it myself as a format typo.

[Adam Griffin]

Abstain

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Aye

[TNF]

NAY

[Lumine]

Aye.

[bore]

Aye

[President Tyrion]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE


Are we seriously going to spend three days on an amendmnt vote to fix a title error?


I need another aye vote to end this.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

You cannot be serious.

[DC Al Fine]

Aye

[Goldwater]

AYE

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendment 61:72 by Lumine

Aye (7): bore, DC al fine, Goldwater, Lumine, NC Yankee, shua, and TyriontheImperialist
Nay (1): TNF
Abstain (1): Adam Griffin

Didn't VOte (1): Alfred F. Jones

The amendment has passed. This shouild not have needed a vote more or less a three day one.

[Lumine]

Well, Yankee, it seems this issue is fairly divided now, and beyond butchering the original bill to just amend Clause 2 I guess I don't see how could I change it. I'm ready for a final vote if the rest are!

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Motion for a final vote (or second Lumine's motion if it is recognized as such).

[windjammer]

Senators,
Don't forget to swear!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Procedual motions don't count towards the debate restrictions on opening final votes, discussion of content does or should. Windjammer, depending on whether you count Lumine's post as a mere procedural motion, you can open the vote immediately, or if not then after 24 hours have lapsed since it was posted.

[windjammer]

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A final vote is now open on this legislation, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[Adam Griffin]

Nay

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

AYE

[Lumine]

Aye.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Aye.

[bore]

Abstain

[President Tyrion]

Nay