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morgieb
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.87, S: -8.70

« on: November 13, 2014, 10:23:33 PM »

Labor up to 56% in most recent Ipsos poll. Incredible thing out of the poll though is the 76% support for Euthanasia, lol  you Kevin Andrews.
Worth noting that the "56%" would be 53% under the more accepted way of preference flows.
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morgieb
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,636
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -8.70

« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 06:13:23 AM »

Some attempts at predictions (WARNING: I don't know that much about non-NSW state politics)

A-L (M-Z will come tomorrow)

Albert Park - potentially interesting, but it's probably not the right year for the Liberals to win this race. I'll be interested to see how cruel Port Philip is.
Altona - Julia Gillard land. Safe Labor of course.
Bass - solidly Liberal, but Labor went close here in 2002....this isn't 2002 though Tongue
Bayswater - the redistrubtion has made this more marginal...Labor would've won it in 2006 under the current boundaries. Probably a Liberal hold though.
Bellarine - incumbency and a general swing should save Neville here.
Benambra - safe Liberal. Although looking at the seat, this seat probably should be a National one.
Bendigo East - probably should be a Labor hold, although it is interesting to note that there was basically no Liberal swing here.
Bendigo West - again expect it to remain in Labor's hands. Labor will also benefit from a partial sophmore surge here.
Bentleigh - will be interesting. On paper should be a Labor gain, but the MP here will get a sophmore surge....and my spies seem to suggest that the Liberals are reasonably confident here.
Box Hill - pretty solidly Liberal, although under the new boundaries this would apparently be a Labor win in 2002.
Brighton - the best Liberal bit of the Port Philip coast. Safe Liberal.
Broadmeadows - John Brumby's old seat, and now held by the older brother of noted d**khead Eddie McGuire. Safe Labor o/c.
Brunswick - apparently the polling looks good for the Greens, but I'm not convinced. They won't get Liberal preferences and there will be a partial sophmore surge here. It will be close, but I'd expect Labor to hold on....the factors that saw Bandt defy preferences and win Melbourne in 2013 aren't relevant here (i.e. there's no sitting member here)
Bulleen - Kevin Andrews land. Safe Liberal.
Bundoora - safe Labor I'd imagine.
Buninyong - given that the Nats are apparently having an open ticket for HTV purposes, Labor should hang on here.
Burwood - this district seems rather volatile, but given that the MP will get a sophmore surge and that the margin looks fairly safe, the Liberals should hold.
Carrum - part of the 'sandbelt' seats that are must win for both parties. Will be tough for Bauer to hold her, but her local profile is strong and she will get a sophmore surge.
Caulfield - the Jewish belt, this district has probably saved Labor's arse in Melbourne Ports federally. However at the state level it is safe Liberal.
Clarinda - safe Labor.
Cranbourne - a marginal district, but in this climate it should be retained by Labor. BTW, I love the Greens candidate from 2010's name....a ex-James Bond character and the pen name a former Crikey writer.
Croydon - safe Liberal, but like a lot of the middle class Eastern suburbs districts, it was Labor held in 2002.
Dandenong - it's Dandenong. Safe Labor.
Eildon - the redistribution has made this once crucial seat safe Liberal.
Eltham - looked close early on, as it is Labor's most marginal seat and the sitting MP is moving to the Upper House, but the general swing to Labor and some scandals around the Liberal candidate should see this be a hold.
Essendon - while the seat is marginal on paper, it generally only goes Liberal in very bad elections (though that still makes it very safe Liberal by the standards of Melbourne North-West Tongue). I wonder if the big swing here was down to Madden turncoating from Essendon to Carlton.
Euroa - this district is actually a lot tighter now since the redistribution (though still safe Coalition). More interesting is the fact there's a three-cornered contest, and that the National candidate isn't really great as a local candidate. The Nationals need this seat more than the Liberals do though, so they should hang on.
Evelyn - another middle-class Eastern suburbs seat that is safe Liberal except in landslides.
Ferntree Gully - ditto.
Footscray - the sort of seat that may be competitive in about 10-20 years, but for now Labor is probably safe from a Greens challenge. Interestingly quite a few reputable independents running here.
Forest Hill - although this seat is marginal, the swing here was rather subuded in 2010, so with a sophmore surge this is probably safe for now.
Frankston - Geoff Shaw's seat. He'll poll Thomson/Slipper levels most likely. Given his misadventures it's hard to see the Liberals winning the seat given how marginal it is, and general discontent with the Liberal government among the sandbelt seats.
Geelong - although Geelong has a reputation of being a poor bogan area (so safe Labor), there are some areas in Geelong that are rather swingy. Given the loss of the MP in the wrong year it might be hard for Labor to hold, but as it is it should be safe.
Gembrook - another formerly Labor held Eastern suburbs district that should be safe for the Liberals this election.
Gippsland East - with Ingram gone, the Gippsland seats will remain National for the forseeable future.
Gippsland South - safe National o/c
Hastings - similar to most of the middle-class Eastern suburbs districts in terms of how they vote, but this district is more rural. Again for this election it is safe Liberal.
Hawthorn - Ted Ballieu's old seat. Yeah, safe Liberal.
Ivanhoe - should be a Labor hold given the general trend. BTW, the demographics of this district is very atypical of how the seat actually votes.
Kew - another safe Liberal seat in the mid-East. Yawn...
Keysborough - should be safe Labor, but the by-election here was pretty bad for Labor. Still I can't imagine this being the right election for this to flip.
Kororoit - another uber-safe Labor seat in the North-West of Melbourne.
Lara - the better Labor bits in Geelong. Safe Labor.
Lowan - safe Nationals. BTW, I'm surprised there isn't a three cornered contest here.
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morgieb
Junior Chimp
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E: -7.87, S: -8.70

« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2014, 08:04:18 PM »

Macedon - possibly too big of a hurdle for the Liberals in this climate, but with a retiring MP, some pre-selection controversies, and a popular Liberal candidate who managed a 9% swing in the federal election this could be very interesting.
Malvern - safest Coalition seat in Melbourne.
Melbourne - very interesting. This is probably the Greens best chance of winning a seat. Liberal preferences will be important (and probably decide the seat), but given the Greens didn't win the 2012 by-election, I'm not super confident in their hopes.
Melton - safe Labor. Interestingly there was little swing here in 2010.
Mildura - safe Nationals, though this is the sort of place where local independents can play well.
Mill Park - safe Labor.
Monbulk - notionally Liberal held but has a sitting Labor MP. Expect him to win the seat, particularly given a fair chunk of the seat came from a seat with the sophmore surge.
Mordialloc - one of the sandbelt seats that will decide the election. I think Labor will win it back narrowly.
Mornington - safe Liberal.
Morwell - on paper safe National. However, the mining fire factor can't help the Coalition here....the seat was Labor held from 1970-2006 (so there's clearly a good base for Labor here) and there's a strong local independent here. Hard to call but Labor's candidate doesn't seem particularly strong and the swing to win seems out of reach for Labor.
Mount Waverley - another middle-class Eastern suburbs district that Labor held during the Bracks year but flipped back in the last election. With the sitting MP benefiting from a sophmore surge it will likely remain Liberal.
Mulgrave - techincally marginal, but given that the new areas were effectively uncontested by Labor and the profile of the sitting MP, expect this to swing hard to Labor.
Murray Plains - safest Coalition seat in the state. Labor didn't even reach 20% here in the last state election.
Narracan - safe Liberal, but an above-average swing should be expected here as Labor have underperformed quite badly in the Latrobe Valley recently and local issues don't favour the Coalition.
Narre Warren North - marginal-ish on paper, but in practice this district probably won't flip this election.
Narre Warren South - safer of the two Narre Warren's, it should remain Labor.
Nepean - safe Liberal. The Greens candidate's name is pretty unfortunate - Craig Thomson.
Niddrie - see Narre Warren North.
Northcote - this district is still fairly solidly Labor even against the Greens. Probably won't become endangered for a while.
Oakleigh - the sitting MP is retiring, but at this election it is hard to see this district flipping.
Ovens Valley - safe Nationals
Pascoe Vale - safe Labor.
Polwarth - safe Liberal.
Prahran - probably depends on whether the Liberal MP has behaved like a moderate. Will be tough but given a sophmore surge if he has legislated well he should hold on.
Preston - safe Labor. May be interesting to see if the Greens overtake the Liberals here, but it won't effect the status of the seat.
Richmond - the other seat (along with Melbourne) that the Greens are apparently winning. But the polling company doing it does not have a good track record, and given preferencing decisions it will be hard for the Greens to get over the line to win it.
Ringwood - with the Liberals winning here in 2010 expect a sophmore surge. Given the redistribution expect the Coalition to hang on.
Ripon - Labor-held seat now notionally Liberal-held. Demographically this is a tough ask for Labor....particularly given the local MP is retiring so expect the Coalition to win it back. Only question is will the Liberals or the Nationals win? The Liberal candidate isn't really a great fit for the seat, and the National candidate does have a strong local following, but will the Nationals spend enough money here?
Rowville - safe Liberal. Once upon a time Labor were competitive here, but the area in general has changed fairly significantly in the last 20 years.
Sandringham - safe Liberal.
Shepparton - safe National. Again one could be surprised that there isn't a three-cornered contest here.
South Barwon - a new personal vote for the sitting Liberal MP should see them hang on, particularly given the swing won't have as much venom now as what one may have feared a while ago.
South-West Coast - Napthine's seat. Safe Liberal in all bar their worst years.
St Albans - safe Labor.
Sunbury - new seat. Would be interesting for the Liberals in a better year, but as it is it should remain in Labor's hands.
Sydenham - safe Labor. This is the district where the Liberal candidate withdrew.
Tarneit - safe Labor. Interestingly the new candidate here represented a seat with little in common with this one, so there could be a swing towards the Coalition here.
Thomastown - Labor's safest seat in Victoria. Another seat where the Liberal candidate withdrew.
Warrandyte - safe Liberal.
Wendouree - notionally Liberal-held, but the seat is uber-marginal, the new Labor MP should get a personal vote and the swing is in Labor's direction. I don't see how the Liberals hang on here.
Werribee - safe Labor.
Williamstown - safe Labor.
Yan Yean - notionally Liberal, but given how marginal the seat is and the fact that the sitting MP is in the ALP, it should go to Labor.
Yuroke - safe Labor.
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morgieb
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,636
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -8.70

« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2014, 08:14:11 PM »

With the exception of Shepparton, this is a very unsurprising election.
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morgieb
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,636
Australia


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -8.70

« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2014, 09:15:44 PM »

With the exception of Shepparton, this is a very unsurprising election.

even the legislative council?


I don't really understand why voting "above the line" and the preference flow still exists. I mean the only reason it was brought in was because people understandably didn't want to fill in like a million boxes. Now you only need to fill in eight or so, surely this weird Australia-specific absurdity is redundant?
Was more thinking the Legislative Assembly. Yes the Legislative Council will be fun.
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