SCOTUS

[bullmoose88]

Both opinions from Alito per SCOTUSblog.  Either very good or very bad on the hobby lobby case depending on your pov.

[DemPGH]

Probably not good.

While I don't think employers should be the ones providing healthcare, I find it very troubling that they would allow a company to opt out of a law they have already found to be Constitutional because of some religious objection. I read somewhere that it will be the first time in US History that the Court has allowed something like that, although I don't know if that is true or not. It is certainly egregious, nevertheless. 

[Gass3268]

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/30/supreme-court-unions_n_5533211.html

[Gass3268]

This sucks, not as awful as it could have been, but it still sucks.

Yay freeloading!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

From initial reports, the Hobby Lobby decision wasn't quite as bad as liberals may have feared, as it limited the scope to closely-held corporations (and presumably, sole-proprietors as well).

[Joe Biden 2020]

This is the best ruling the Supreme Court could have made.  For one, it allows families to retain freedom of religion even in the workplace.  It also doesn't force/allow other companies to do the same as Hobby Lobby.  It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling.

[Gass3268]

This is the best ruling the Supreme Court could have made.  For one, it allows families to retain freedom of religion even in the workplace.  It also doesn't force/allow other companies to do the same as Hobby Lobby.  It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling.

You shouldn't be able to force your religion on your employees.

[Simfan34]

Ugh, the Harris v. Quinn ruling is great news (smash the unions and everything) but Bushie, as always, is just... ugh. I mean, this has nothing to do with "freedom of religion". Where on earth are you getting this from? "It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling." This is not how the Supreme Court works!

[Joe Biden 2020]

This is the best ruling the Supreme Court could have made.  For one, it allows families to retain freedom of religion even in the workplace.  It also doesn't force/allow other companies to do the same as Hobby Lobby.  It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling.

You shouldn't be able to force your religion on your employees.

Companies should not be forced to abandon their religious beliefs in favor of "women's rights." This does not trounce on women's rights.  Rather, it protects the rights of the unborn.  Unborn babies are living human beings and should be given the EXACT same rights as those living outside the womb.  The good news for liberals and the country is that it doesn't make the Hobby Lobby ruling a broad law.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Ugh, the Harris v. Quinn ruling is great news (smash the unions and everything) but Bushie, as always, is just... ugh. I mean, this has nothing to do with "freedom of religion". Where on earth are you getting this from? "It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling." This is not how the Supreme Court works!

Evangelical Christians have been beat up in this country with almost every ruling going against them and playing into the hands of godless liberals.  This is a fair and correct ruling, but a victory for Evangelical Christians.

[Simfan34]

Ugh, the Harris v. Quinn ruling is great news (smash the unions and everything) but Bushie, as always, is just... ugh. I mean, this has nothing to do with "freedom of religion". Where on earth are you getting this from? "It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling." This is not how the Supreme Court works!

Evangelical Christians have been beat up in this country with almost every ruling going against them and playing into the hands of godless liberals.  This is a fair and correct ruling, but a victory for Evangelical Christians.

SHUT UP

[AggregateDemand]

You shouldn't be able to force your religion on your employees.

The government shouldn't be able to force employers to provide healthcare.

[AggregateDemand]

Probably not good.

While I don't think employers should be the ones providing healthcare, I find it very troubling that they would allow a company to opt out of a law they have already found to be Constitutional because of some religious objection. I read somewhere that it will be the first time in US History that the Court has allowed something like that, although I don't know if that is true or not. It is certainly egregious, nevertheless. 

I can't remember how many dozens of contraceptives are approved under Obamacare. Hobby Lobby is only objecting to several methods. It's not a big deal. Religious exemptions for certain birth control medications should have been granted from the outset, without SCOTUS.

[Gass3268]

This is the best ruling the Supreme Court could have made.  For one, it allows families to retain freedom of religion even in the workplace.  It also doesn't force/allow other companies to do the same as Hobby Lobby.  It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling.

You shouldn't be able to force your religion on your employees.

Companies should not be forced to abandon their religious beliefs in favor of "women's rights." This does not trounce on women's rights.  Rather, it protects the rights of the unborn.  Unborn babies are living human beings and should be given the EXACT same rights as those living outside the womb.  The good news for liberals and the country is that it doesn't make the Hobby Lobby ruling a broad law.

Rights of the unborn? Birth control isn't abortion! There is no conception of a fetus when birth control is used correctly. In fact,  birth control helps prevent abortion.

[Gass3268]

You shouldn't be able to force your religion on your employees.

The government shouldn't be able to force employers to provide healthcare.

This is true, the government should provide it to everyone. Good point AD!

[Indy Texas]

Today, a panel of elders, clad in traditional black robes, decreed that religious law may be used to trump prevailing civil law.

Meanwhile, in the Middle East, an Islamic State under Sharia law was established.

[AggregateDemand]

This is true, the government should provide it to everyone. Good point AD!

Single-payer would technically be more inline with the constitutional framework than command-corporatism. Explain the push for higher minimum wage.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

This is the best ruling the Supreme Court could have made.  For one, it allows families to retain freedom of religion even in the workplace.  It also doesn't force/allow other companies to do the same as Hobby Lobby.  It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling.

You shouldn't be able to force your religion on your employees.

Companies should not be forced to abandon their religious beliefs in favor of "women's rights." This does not trounce on women's rights.  Rather, it protects the rights of the unborn.  Unborn babies are living human beings and should be given the EXACT same rights as those living outside the womb.  The good news for liberals and the country is that it doesn't make the Hobby Lobby ruling a broad law.

a company can't have beliefs.

edit: also lol at the scare quotes

[memphis]

Seems like a bizarrely narrow decision given the scope of the logic that it's premised on. I mean, employers can refuse to buy contraception in the case of a religious objection, but a similar religious objection to some other medical treatment holds no water?

Reminds me of Bush v Gore.

[bullmoose88]

Probably want to laminate those charters for all the S-Corp baptisms to follow.

[Mr. Illini]

This case goes too far. Hobby Lobby is not a religiously-affiliated institution so it ought to not be included in the exception.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

This is the best ruling the Supreme Court could have made.  For one, it allows families to retain freedom of religion even in the workplace.  It also doesn't force/allow other companies to do the same as Hobby Lobby.  It's about time the conservatives win a Supreme Court ruling.

You shouldn't be able to force your religion on your employees.

Companies should not be forced to abandon their religious beliefs in favor of "women's rights." This does not trounce on women's rights.  Rather, it protects the rights of the unborn.  Unborn babies are living human beings and should be given the EXACT same rights as those living outside the womb.  The good news for liberals and the country is that it doesn't make the Hobby Lobby ruling a broad law.

The idea that companies can have religious beliefs is ludicrously offensive and an insult to the very idea of law.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

COMPANIES ARE NOT PEOPLE

[DemPGH]

Religious exemptions for certain birth control medications should have been granted from the outset, without SCOTUS.

Disagree. I look at it through the opposite side of the prism, unsurprisingly. The employees should be protected from the religion of the guy at the top, not the guy at the top given reign to push his religious beliefs on the employees.

I'm deeply skeptical of religious exemptions as well since I think they are a cop-out. In this instance, the health department trumps the religion of some guy in Oklahoma or Kentucky somewhere who owns a business and wants to discriminate.

Well, get ready more of these, folks! And hope against hope that one of these five will resign in the foreseeable future. Heh. Won't hold my breath.

Seems like a bizarrely narrow decision given the scope of the logic that it's premised on. I mean, employers can refuse to buy contraception in the case of a religious objection, but a similar religious objection to some other medical treatment holds no water?

Smacks of Kennedy honestly. Yeah, and also one kind of business versus another kind of business; this is an instance of religious expression by a company, but that is not. This company can do it, but that company cannot.

Pbbbbbbbbt. Bizzarre-o.

[CJK]

Extremely upset that they dismissed the case about gay conversion therapy. I am fed up with the courts pandering to homosexual ideology at all costs. First they stealth-legalized gay marriage, in one of most illogical, atrocious decisions in court history. Now they go on and legitimize depriving free speech rights to people counseling homosexuals.

And remember, this from a "conservative" court.