You can't just exclude certain states. Granted, Obama didn't campaign there, but the fact remains that more people voted for Hillary than Obama.
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Obama's name wasn't on Michigan's ballot. If your argument is that Hillary got more votes than Obama, shouldn't you only count contests where both Hillary and Obama's names are on the ballot?
Even if you deduct the 328,309 votes Hillary received in the Michigan beauty contest where Obama wasn't on the ballot from her over 18 million received in the total contests she would still lead Obama in the total popular vote by around 100,000. HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE IN 08. FACT.
CHECK YOUR MATH.
It's funny though that you never hear that from the Obamatards. The same people just go on and on about Al Gore in 2000 instead. Plus, I bet if the superdelegates had voted their conscience, they'd have picked Hillary too.
Never hear what from Obamatards? We go on and on because the evidence suggests more Floridians voted for Gore than for Bush and the ballots were miscounted. Not to mention the butterfly ballot costing Gore thousands of votes. What does that have to do with Obama?
Oh I have the contests are still listed on this site. If you are somehow claiming he is leading slightly via caucus contests lets keep in mind that not every caucus was 100 % open and transparent. I am not saying her lead was huge but she did lead in popular votes cast for president even with Michigan removed from primary count. While not counting Michigan, I am counting Florida in my count, Although only a beauty contest both names were listed on that ballot.
I believe the point Haggard was trying to make about Gore and Florida was that the democrats protested Bush's win as not being legitimate because no recount could proceed and it was believed Gore may have had more votes. However when data suggested Hillary claimed more votes in the overall 2008 primary contest (no matter how you spin it) many democrats were still not willing to support her over Obama because they wished to crown Obama at the time. There was a lot of pressure on delegates to "fall in line" behind Obama at the end rather then draw out the contest further although as Haggard said many likely would have preferred backing Clinton.
I do believe what happened to Gore was unfair and that a statewide recount should have proceeded. I also believe the 2008 democratic primary was not conducted fairly (ie the way caucuses were conducted and at time disenfranchised certain groups namely: elderly or working class non politico types) yet many did not want to investigate that further as we were given a nominee. Anyhow I suppose its water under the bridge now, Right?
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