Kasich vs. O'Malley

[Suburbia]

Discuss with maps. Who would win the independent vote? Who would dominate in polling during the summer?

[Never]

Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) - 348 EVs - 53.5% PV
Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) - 190 EVs 45% PV

Kasich would probably win 55% of the Independent vote. I suspect that Kasich would have at least a 1-2 point lead throughout the summer, but as the election drew closer, he would increase his lead.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

John Kasich. Maryland would be a far bigger albatross than Massachusetts ever could be.

[Clermont County GOPer]

John Kasich

[Suburbia]

Kasich would defeat O'Malley in a good GOP year, but O'Malley does well in the campaign trail, it could be closer.

Ohio Governor John Kasich/Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton-321 EV/54.5% PV
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley/New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand-219 EV-44.4%

[henster]

Kasich would defeat O'Malley in a good GOP year, but O'Malley does well in the campaign trail, it could be closer.

Ohio Governor John Kasich/Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton-321 EV/54.5% PV
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley/New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand-219 EV-44.4%

No Republican has won even close to 54% of the PV since 1988 I have a hard time seeing Kasich doing that especially with a far right winger like Cotton as his running mate.

[KCDem]

Kasich would defeat O'Malley in a good GOP year, but O'Malley does well in the campaign trail, it could be closer.

Ohio Governor John Kasich/Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton-321 EV/54.5% PV
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley/New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand-219 EV-44.4%

This map and percentages is the ultimate hackery.

[Dixie Reborn]

Kasich would defeat O'Malley in a good GOP year, but O'Malley does well in the campaign trail, it could be closer.

Ohio Governor John Kasich/Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton-321 EV/54.5% PV
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley/New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand-219 EV-44.4%

This map and percentages is the ultimate hackery.

You have no right to call anyone a hack.

[KCDem]

Kasich would defeat O'Malley in a good GOP year, but O'Malley does well in the campaign trail, it could be closer.

Ohio Governor John Kasich/Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton-321 EV/54.5% PV
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley/New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand-219 EV-44.4%

This map and percentages is the ultimate hackery.

You have no right to call anyone a hack.

I have every right to call anyone what I damn well please. You and your kind can't take rights away from people anymore, sorry.

[Vern]

Kasich would defeat O'Malley in a good GOP year, but O'Malley does well in the campaign trail, it could be closer.

Ohio Governor John Kasich/Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton-321 EV/54.5% PV
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley/New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand-219 EV-44.4%

This map and percentages is the ultimate hackery.

You have no right to call anyone a hack.

I have every right to call anyone what I damn well please. You and your kind can't take rights away from people anymore, sorry.

That's not true. According to the Forum Guidelines, you don't have the right to call anyone what you want.... Just saying...

[Mechaman]

Guys,

Martin O'Malley is a horrifically boring candidate.  That is not hackery, that is an objective observation.  He is easily this generation's Michael Dukakis.

[/someone who is not a far right wing Republican who pines for Old Dixie]

Though let's be fair, John Kasich isn't a Reagan 2.0 either.

[Suburbia]

Kasich would defeat O'Malley in a good GOP year, but O'Malley does well in the campaign trail, it could be closer.

Ohio Governor John Kasich/Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton-321 EV/54.5% PV
Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley/New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand-219 EV-44.4%

This map and percentages is the ultimate hackery.

It isn't hackery, it's just something I can see happening in this matchup but it could change, and I could change the map.

[SWE]

O'Malley is obviously a terrible candidate, but you guys are really overrating how badly he'd lose by.

[Suburbia]

O'Malley is obviously a terrible candidate, but you guys are really overrating how badly he'd lose by.

You may be right, SWE. I don't think he's that terrible. He could beat very conservative candidates like Cruz or Santorum. He's a fairly decent choice, but generic. But generic may be good in 2016.

[henster]

O'Malley would do well enough in vote rich places like Cali, IL, & NY to avoid a blowout in the PV a Kasich victory would look something like 52-46 or 51-47.

[Cory]

John Kasich

[Grumpier Than Thou]

O'Malley is obviously a terrible candidate, but you guys are really overrating how badly he'd lose by.

This, oh my god.

[Rockefeller GOP]

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It would be probably the single most boring election in US history.

Because of that and it being an open year, it'd be close regardless.

[Phony Moderate]

Some third-party candidate who doesn't bore the nation to tears (which would be pretty much anyone other than Kasich or O'Malley) wins in a landslide.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Mayor Carcetti

[Cory]

A more realistic map I think:

[Mister Mets]

I think a generic Republican will do better in 2016 than a generic Democrat, simply due to the consistent decline of parties that hold the White House. O'Malley also has a slight regional advantage (Midwesterner from Swing State VS East Coast safe liberal state.)

The default map would be a soft Republican win. O'Malley would be strong in Virginia. I'd expect Kasich to do well in Pennsylvania.

Kasich/ Martinez- 292 Electoral Votes
O'Malley/ Female Senator (It could be Gilibrand, Hagan, McCaskill, Klobuchar, or Heitkamp, depending on who does best during vetting)- 246 Electoral Votes

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I think a generic Republican will do better in 2016 than a generic Democrat, simply due to the consistent decline of parties that hold the White House. O'Malley also has a slight regional advantage (Midwesterner from Swing State VS East Coast safe liberal state.)

The default map would be a soft Republican win. O'Malley would be strong in Virginia. I'd expect Kasich to do well in Pennsylvania.

Kasich/ Martinez- 292 Electoral Votes
O'Malley/ Female Senator (It could be Gilibrand, Hagan, McCaskill, Klobuchar, or Heitkamp, depending on who does best during vetting)- 246 Electoral Votes

O'Malley would win PA, NH, OH, and *maybe* CO.  Additionally, Martinez won't be on the ticket.