Richard Mellon Scaife dead at 82

[All Along The Watchtower]

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[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

Good riddance.

[Indy Texas]

Be nice, guys. Richard Mellon Scaife worked very hard to inherit his money. Bootstraps 100 percent.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Be nice, guys. Richard Mellon Scaife worked very hard to inherit his money. Bootstraps 100 percent.

Yeah, he worked very hard to double his initial wealth .

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Rest in Peace.

[Indy Texas]

Be nice, guys. Richard Mellon Scaife worked very hard to inherit his money. Bootstraps 100 percent.

Yeah, he worked very hard to double his initial wealth .

You do realize that any semi-competent financial advisor could get those results given the bull market in stocks that took place over the bulk of Scaife's adulthood, no?

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

If you scumfucks who hate him knew how he treated his employees you'd eat your words. RIP FF.

He was a key developer of the obstructionist politics and the embodiment of SuperPAC corruption, both of which strangle our country today, but he was nice to the waiter so it all balances out.

[Simfan34]

I was going to say a "man of grace and class" as I would for any passing aristocrat, but that wouldn't be particularly accurate, now would it? I suppose I can applaud his help to conservative causes. I would appreciate Grumps telling me more of his good deeds.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

If you scumfucks who hate him knew how he treated his employees you'd eat your words. RIP FF.

He was a key developer of the obstructionist politics and the embodiment of SuperPAC corruption, both of which strangle our country today, but he was nice to the waiter so it all balances out.

Boo hoo hoo, the other party that controls half of Congress isn't voting for what my party is proposing. Go cry to your mommy if you don't like it!

Be nice, guys. Richard Mellon Scaife worked very hard to inherit his money. Bootstraps 100 percent.

Yeah, he worked very hard to double his initial wealth .

You do realize that any semi-competent financial advisor could get those results given the bull market in stocks that took place over the bulk of Scaife's adulthood, no?

But you don't know if he did or didn't have a financial advisor. So the argument that he got rich as a young man and then just spent it all on political causes when he was older is like saying that Warren Buffett hasn't ever had any real success.

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

If you scumfucks who hate him knew how he treated his employees you'd eat your words. RIP FF.

He was a key developer of the obstructionist politics and the embodiment of SuperPAC corruption, both of which strangle our country today, but he was nice to the waiter so it all balances out.

Boo hoo hoo, the other party that controls half of Congress isn't voting for what my party is proposing. Go cry to your mommy if you don't like it!

Uh if you think what the GOP did in the 90's and does today is just "not voting for what the other party supports", then maybe your parents should have looked into special ed.

Also your attempt at wit fails miserably.

[Indy Texas]

If you scumfucks who hate him knew how he treated his employees you'd eat your words. RIP FF.

He was a key developer of the obstructionist politics and the embodiment of SuperPAC corruption, both of which strangle our country today, but he was nice to the waiter so it all balances out.

Boo hoo hoo, the other party that controls half of Congress isn't voting for what my party is proposing. Go cry to your mommy if you don't like it!

Be nice, guys. Richard Mellon Scaife worked very hard to inherit his money. Bootstraps 100 percent.

Yeah, he worked very hard to double his initial wealth .

You do realize that any semi-competent financial advisor could get those results given the bull market in stocks that took place over the bulk of Scaife's adulthood, no?

But you don't know if he did or didn't have a financial advisor. So the argument that he got rich as a young man and then just spent it all on political causes when he was older is like saying that Warren Buffett hasn't ever had any real success.

Sanchez, someone who was born in 1932 and wanted to double whatever money they had, say, at the beginning of their career (say around 1957) could have put it all in an S&P 500 index fund and more than doubled it by the time they retired.

If you doubled your money by actively doing something with it, you're basically an idiot because you didn't do any better than the guy who just put it in a fund and let it double by doing absolutely nothing.

If you're really going to compare that to what Warren Buffett has achieved in his life, you really are just a GOP hack.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

If you scumfucks who hate him knew how he treated his employees you'd eat your words. RIP FF.

He was a key developer of the obstructionist politics and the embodiment of SuperPAC corruption, both of which strangle our country today, but he was nice to the waiter so it all balances out.

Boo hoo hoo, the other party that controls half of Congress isn't voting for what my party is proposing. Go cry to your mommy if you don't like it!

Uh if you think what the GOP did in the 90's and does today is just "not voting for what the other party supports", then maybe your parents should have looked into special ed.

Also your attempt at wit fails miserably.

I have an autistic brother, so I should give you a heads up that I take this personally. When you graduate Middle School next year and take an American Government class (maybe if you get your mommy to sign off on it you can be in the AP class, since most upper class, white, fourteen year old socialists I know tend to be labeled as “gifted” for some God awful reason), you will learn that Congress is not supposed to aid the President or oppose him; they do whatever the party in power wants.

If you scumfucks who hate him knew how he treated his employees you'd eat your words. RIP FF.

He was a key developer of the obstructionist politics and the embodiment of SuperPAC corruption, both of which strangle our country today, but he was nice to the waiter so it all balances out.

Boo hoo hoo, the other party that controls half of Congress isn't voting for what my party is proposing. Go cry to your mommy if you don't like it!

Be nice, guys. Richard Mellon Scaife worked very hard to inherit his money. Bootstraps 100 percent.

Yeah, he worked very hard to double his initial wealth .

You do realize that any semi-competent financial advisor could get those results given the bull market in stocks that took place over the bulk of Scaife's adulthood, no?

But you don't know if he did or didn't have a financial advisor. So the argument that he got rich as a young man and then just spent it all on political causes when he was older is like saying that Warren Buffett hasn't ever had any real success.

Sanchez, someone who was born in 1932 and wanted to double whatever money they had, say, at the beginning of their career (say around 1957) could have put it all in an S&P 500 index fund and more than doubled it by the time they retired.

If you doubled your money by actively doing something with it, you're basically an idiot because you didn't do any better than the guy who just put it in a fund and let it double by doing absolutely nothing.

If you're really going to compare that to what Warren Buffett has achieved in his life, you really are just a GOP hack.

So, people like Scaife (who created thousands of jobs with his oil fields and aluminum mines-which, yes, he did inherit) are lesser people than a guy who just invests his money? It seems to me that you have no idea what Scaife did in his career outside his politics.

Also, I have nothing against Warren Buffet. But why is it ok for Buffet to fund political causes and not Scaife?

[Indy Texas]

I'm sure he created so many thousands of jobs because he's a Job Creator who lives to create jobs out of the goodness of his heart and the love for his country.

What political causes does Warren Buffett involve himself in? What politicians does he give money to? What SuperPACs has he created? Unlike Scaife, Warren doesn't have a pathological obsession with smearing political enemies with as many fabricated scandals as possible.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'm sure he created so many thousands of jobs because he's a Job Creator who lives to create jobs out of the goodness of his heart and the love for his country.

What political causes does Warren Buffett involve himself in? What politicians does he give money to? What SuperPACs has he created? Unlike Scaife, Warren doesn't have a pathological obsession with smearing political enemies with as many fabricated scandals as possible.

No. He created them for profit, which has been the greatest instrument of human progress and regression. It's a double edged sword, like humanity itself (I know I sound sage here). But, good motive or awful motives, the man created jobs as a result. I don't see how his existence can be described as negative.

As for Buffett, he was a big fundraiser for Barack Obama. So was Jamie Dimon. And is Mike Bloomberg's anti-gun campaign illegitimate too? Because big money is behind that as well.

And as distasteful as Scaife's methods were, they are part of politics. I'm gonna speak for myself right now-there are certain people who I deal with in school and in my community who I just downright hate. I don't like them. Their presence annoys me. I want them to go to other schools or get another job or move to another street. Scaife didn't like Bill Clinton-hated Bill Clinton. To Scaife, Bill Clinton was a threat. Was he really? Who cares. But you can't blame Scaife for doing all he could to get rid of his imagined enemy.

I don't blame Nixon for having an enemies list, and I don't blame Obama for using the IRS as a weapon (I don't condone these actions, but I don't view them as irrational). I intend to go into political organizing, and I know damn well that it is a nasty game-play big or go home.

[Indy Texas]

I'm sure he created so many thousands of jobs because he's a Job Creator who lives to create jobs out of the goodness of his heart and the love for his country.

What political causes does Warren Buffett involve himself in? What politicians does he give money to? What SuperPACs has he created? Unlike Scaife, Warren doesn't have a pathological obsession with smearing political enemies with as many fabricated scandals as possible.

No. He created them for profit, which has been the greatest instrument of human progress and regression. It's a double edged sword, like humanity itself (I know I sound sage here). But, good motive or awful motives, the man created jobs as a result. I don't see how his existence can be described as negative.

As for Buffett, he was a big fundraiser for Barack Obama. So was Jamie Dimon. And is Mike Bloomberg's anti-gun campaign illegitimate too? Because big money is behind that as well.

And as distasteful as Scaife's methods were, they are part of politics. I'm gonna speak for myself right now-there are certain people who I deal with in school and in my community who I just downright hate. I don't like them. Their presence annoys me. I want them to go to other schools or get another job or move to another street. Scaife didn't like Bill Clinton-hated Bill Clinton. To Scaife, Bill Clinton was a threat. Was he really? Who cares. But you can't blame Scaife for doing all he could to get rid of his imagined enemy.

I don't blame Nixon for having an enemies list, and I don't blame Obama for using the IRS as a weapon (I don't condone these actions, but I don't view them as irrational). I intend to go into political organizing, and I know damn well that it is a nasty game-play big or go home.

What you just wrote could easily have been written by a young Richard Nixon, had the Internet and this forum existed at the time. You may have some bigger issues. There's a difference between disliking someone and expending absurd amounts of time, money and effort trying to wrong them for no apparent reason, Richard Mellon Scaife and Richard Nixon did. Wouldn't want your name to show up in a grand jury indictment 20 years from now, all for the sake of sticking it to those other guys.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I'm sure he created so many thousands of jobs because he's a Job Creator who lives to create jobs out of the goodness of his heart and the love for his country.

What political causes does Warren Buffett involve himself in? What politicians does he give money to? What SuperPACs has he created? Unlike Scaife, Warren doesn't have a pathological obsession with smearing political enemies with as many fabricated scandals as possible.

No. He created them for profit, which has been the greatest instrument of human progress and regression. It's a double edged sword, like humanity itself (I know I sound sage here). But, good motive or awful motives, the man created jobs as a result. I don't see how his existence can be described as negative.

As for Buffett, he was a big fundraiser for Barack Obama. So was Jamie Dimon. And is Mike Bloomberg's anti-gun campaign illegitimate too? Because big money is behind that as well.

And as distasteful as Scaife's methods were, they are part of politics. I'm gonna speak for myself right now-there are certain people who I deal with in school and in my community who I just downright hate. I don't like them. Their presence annoys me. I want them to go to other schools or get another job or move to another street. Scaife didn't like Bill Clinton-hated Bill Clinton. To Scaife, Bill Clinton was a threat. Was he really? Who cares. But you can't blame Scaife for doing all he could to get rid of his imagined enemy.

I don't blame Nixon for having an enemies list, and I don't blame Obama for using the IRS as a weapon (I don't condone these actions, but I don't view them as irrational). I intend to go into political organizing, and I know damn well that it is a nasty game-play big or go home.

What you just wrote could easily have been written by a young Richard Nixon, had the Internet and this forum existed at the time. You may have some bigger issues. There's a difference between disliking someone and expending absurd amounts of time, money and effort trying to wrong them for no apparent reason, Richard Mellon Scaife and Richard Nixon did. Wouldn't want your name to show up in a grand jury indictment 20 years from now, all for the sake of sticking it to those other guys.

If I felt it was worth it, sure. Do I feel that beating the eastern establishment or the orthogonians or whatever so called enemy I have is worth endangering my career? God know. You wouldn't see me playing dirty like the McDaniel guys were doing last month. But do I detest their actions as cancerous for political discourse? Not really.

As for the so called "deeper issues"-I've been pretty open about the fact that I admire the darker aspects of Richard Nixon, because I am honest with myself about my own darker aspects. I learned to accept this from (of all people) Howard Stern.

[Antonio the Sixth]

As for the so called "deeper issues"-I've been pretty open about the fact that I admire the darker aspects of Richard Nixon, because I am honest with myself about my own darker aspects. I learned to accept this from (of all people) Howard Stern.

Coming to terms with evil based on the knowledge that we all have some within ourselves and outright admiring it are very different things.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

As for the so called "deeper issues"-I've been pretty open about the fact that I admire the darker aspects of Richard Nixon, because I am honest with myself about my own darker aspects. I learned to accept this from (of all people) Howard Stern.

Coming to terms with evil based on the knowledge that we all have some within ourselves and outright admiring it are very different things.

You're not wrong at all on this, though I feel people apply the term evil not to Nixon's actions but to his ambition. I admire his absolute dedication to claiming the Presidency-I admire Hillary Clinton for that as well. What I don't admire is Nixon's methods to get there, like breaking into the Watergate and purposely extending the Vietnam War.

[bore]

As for the so called "deeper issues"-I've been pretty open about the fact that I admire the darker aspects of Richard Nixon, because I am honest with myself about my own darker aspects. I learned to accept this from (of all people) Howard Stern.

Coming to terms with evil based on the knowledge that we all have some within ourselves and outright admiring it are very different things.

You're not wrong at all on this, though I feel people apply the term evil not to Nixon's actions but to his ambition. I admire his absolute dedication to claiming the Presidency-I admire Hillary Clinton for that as well. What I don't admire is Nixon's methods to get there, like breaking into the Watergate and purposely extending the Vietnam War.

But you can't separate the two. If Nixon had not been willing to extend the Vietnam War he would not have had an absolute dedication to becoming presidency. He'd have other things instead, like a conscience, but he wouldn't have that ambition. Trying to separate his actions, which were motivated purely by his ambition and the ambition itself is impossible.

Not really related to that, but it's pretty disturbing that you admire sociopathic lust for power.