If Romney had been the nominee and won in 2008, would we have the ACA?

[Indy Texas]

Would President Mitt and the Democratic Congress have signed nationwide Romneycare into law?

[tmthforu94]

No, though even if he had, I'm sure Romney would have crafted something far superior to Obamacare.

[Joe Republic]

Healthcare reform would never have even been attempted, of course.

[Antonio the Sixth]

lolno

[Franzl]

No, though even if he had, I'm sure Romney would have crafted something far superior to Obamacare.

Not sure what makes you think that, seeing as Obamacare is basically Romneycare.

[7,052,770]

Yes, he would have tried at least. Until 2009 he considered Romneycare to be his greatest and proudest achievement.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Seeing how poorly Romney portrayed his wealth in 2012, I can see him going down in a landslide in 2008.

[bedstuy]

Yes, he would have tried at least. Until 2009 he considered Romneycare to be his greatest and proudest achievement.

No way.  No Republican would try to fix the healthcare system, it's too difficult.  Romneycare was a creature of having huge Democratic majorities to push everything through.

And, why would Republicans even care about healthcare?

[Oakvale]

No, obviously. Is this a joke? At most you might have been seen a bill literally consisting of the words "tort reform" repeated over and over like something from The Shining.

[TNF]

Of course. The Romney administration would offer the plan (given that Obamacare is Heritagecare, after all) and then the Democrats would accept it because it is "better than nothing."

[bedstuy]

Of course. The Romney administration would offer the plan (given that Obamacare is Heritagecare, after all) and then the Democrats would accept it because it is "better than nothing."

Romney 2008 Healthcare position from his website:

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Let's not rewrite history that happened in just a few years ago.  It's silly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Of course. The Romney administration would offer the plan (given that Obamacare is Heritagecare, after all) and then the Democrats would accept it because it is "better than nothing."

lol

[IceSpear]

Yes, and most Republicans would have supported it, just like they did until the black guy proposed it.

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

Romney would have lost '08

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Romney would have lost '08

Yeah, but even Jesus would've lost in '08 if he was representing the party of Bush.

[Deus Naturae]

Of course. The Romney administration would offer the plan (given that Obamacare is Heritagecare, after all) and then the Democrats would accept it because it is "better than nothing."

When will this talking point die? The Heritage Foundation proposed an individual catastrophic insurance mandate...that's it. You can call them hypocritical for opposing the individual mandate if you want to (although the Obamacare mandate is comprehensive, unlike the one Heritage proposed), but Obamacare is WAY more than just the individual mandate...

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Yes, he would have tried at least. Until 2009 he considered Romneycare to be his greatest and proudest achievement.

No way.  No Republican would try to fix the healthcare system, it's too difficult.  Romneycare was a creature of having huge Democratic majorities to push everything through.

And, why would Republicans even care about healthcare?

To stop it from being an issue that benefit the Democrats if nothing else.  It's not like there weren't some major healthcare legislation under W.

[bedstuy]

Yes, he would have tried at least. Until 2009 he considered Romneycare to be his greatest and proudest achievement.

No way.  No Republican would try to fix the healthcare system, it's too difficult.  Romneycare was a creature of having huge Democratic majorities to push everything through.

And, why would Republicans even care about healthcare?

To stop it from being an issue that benefit the Democrats if nothing else.  It's not like there weren't some major healthcare legislation under W.

You mean the Give money to insurance and pharmaceutical companies and Win Florida in 2004 Act of 2003?  Republicans might want to rewrite our laws to be more favorable to insurance and pharmaceuticals; they're not going to be interested in improving healthcare in this country.

[Illuminati Blood Drinker]

Of course. The Romney administration would offer the plan (given that Obamacare is Heritagecare, after all) and then the Democrats would accept it because it is "better than nothing."

When will this talking point die? The Heritage Foundation proposed an individual catastrophic insurance mandate...that's it. You can call them hypocritical for opposing the individual mandate if you want to (although the Obamacare mandate is comprehensive, unlike the one Heritage proposed), but Obamacare is WAY more than just the individual mandate...

Oh crunch, I agreed with a libertarian.

Seriously the ACA =/= Heritagecare, read these:

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2013/12/the-aca-v-the-heritage-plan-a-comparison-in-chart-form

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2013/12/the-affordable-care-act-is-not-remotely-similar-to-the-heritage-plan

[Oldiesfreak1854]

No, though even if he had, I'm sure Romney would have crafted something far superior to Obamacare.

[H. Ross Peron]

Healthcare reform would never have even been attempted, of course.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yes, he would have tried at least. Until 2009 he considered Romneycare to be his greatest and proudest achievement.

No way.  No Republican would try to fix the healthcare system, it's too difficult.  Romneycare was a creature of having huge Democratic majorities to push everything through.

And, why would Republicans even care about healthcare?

To stop it from being an issue that benefit the Democrats if nothing else.  It's not like there weren't some major healthcare legislation under W.

This is not how the Republican Party works.

[AggregateDemand]

We might have a bill called the ACA, but it would be cohesive policy, not fairy-tales for liberals. As Democrats are quick to point out, Republicans have been playing with the ACA format for a long time, but they know better than to mandate comprehensive insurance for all citizens, especially without making major reforms to Medicare/Medicaid spending.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Yes, and most Republicans would have supported it, just like they did until the Democrat proposed it.

Fixed

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Yes, he would have tried at least. Until 2009 he considered Romneycare to be his greatest and proudest achievement.

No way.  No Republican would try to fix the healthcare system, it's too difficult.  Romneycare was a creature of having huge Democratic majorities to push everything through.

And, why would Republicans even care about healthcare?

To stop it from being an issue that benefit the Democrats if nothing else.  It's not like there weren't some major healthcare legislation under W.

You mean the Give money to insurance and pharmaceutical companies and Win Florida in 2004 Act of 2003?  Republicans might want to rewrite our laws to be more favorable to insurance and pharmaceuticals; they're not going to be interested in improving healthcare in this country.

If the only beneficiaries were insurance and pharmaceutical companies why have Democrats never attempted a full repeal? Surely there's no reason to worry about the senior vote from such a thing?