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Napoleon
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« on: July 06, 2014, 10:35:47 PM »



Could Michael Steele be a potential dark horse in a Republican primary or as a VP pick in 2016? I know he has limited experience in elected office but he presided over one of the largest Republican victories ever when he was RNC Chairman. He also led a "Fire Pelosi" bus tour. If his campaign could replicate this creativity and innovation, he could be a threat. He has been an advocate of giving the GOP a hip hop makeover. Is Michael Steele the dark horse superstar sitting right before the GOP's eyes?
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2014, 10:42:01 PM »

I highly, highly doubt the GOP will pick someone who's only elected position was Lt. Governor of Maryland.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 10:51:43 PM »

OMG please stop with these nonsensical suggestions
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 10:54:54 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2014, 10:59:48 PM by Napoleon »

OMG please stop with these nonsensical suggestions

If you said Barack Obama was going to be the next President right after Bush's reelection, people would be saying that to you. Politics is so unpredictable these days, Obama proved dark horse candidates can win. Everyone thought Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were the serious contenders. If you're paying attention, I said "potential dark horse" not "clear front runner". Please discuss the topic at hand in context.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2014, 11:25:12 PM »

OMG please stop with these nonsensical suggestions

If you said Barack Obama was going to be the next President right after Bush's reelection, people would be saying that to you. Politics is so unpredictable these days, Obama proved dark horse candidates can win. Everyone thought Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were the serious contenders. If you're paying attention, I said "potential dark horse" not "clear front runner". Please discuss the topic at hand in context.

You're missing it...Obama was young, charismatic, inspiring, and a United States Senator. Steele is boring, hasn't held an office higher than Lieutenant Governor, and lost both his 2006 election for Senate and his 2010 reelection bid as RNC chair. Comparing Steele to Obama is quite ludicrous in fact; I'm not saying you have to be a big name to have a shot at the presidency, but there are certain things you need if you want to rise as a dark horse and Steele does not have any of those.

You already know all that though...
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2014, 11:41:19 PM »

I don't think it's unrealistic. Granted, he starts out at a disadvantage by not having elected office, but 2010 was considered one of the biggest wave elections and Steele presided under it, which shows a strong amount of leadership. Additionally he would be appealing to party leaders as an African-American. As long as he runs to the right, he should have a pretty good chance at the nomination. In terms of the general, if he runs like he did for Governor he could be a formidable opponent to Hillary - if she doesn't nominate a black VP I could see African-Americans leaving the Democratic Party in droves.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2014, 11:55:25 PM »

Presiding over the Republican victories of 2010 means piss-all. Come on. A steaming pile of garbage could've been the RNC chairman at the time and we still would've seen Republicans take the House.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2014, 04:23:32 AM »

Neigh to that
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2014, 08:25:29 AM »

Presiding over the Republican victories of 2010 means piss-all. Come on. A steaming pile of garbage could've been the RNC chairman at the time and we still would've seen Republicans take the House.

I don't think it's unrealistic. Granted, he starts out at a disadvantage by not having elected office, but 2010 was considered one of the biggest wave elections and Steele presided under it, which shows a strong amount of leadership. Additionally he would be appealing to party leaders as an African-American. As long as he runs to the right, he should have a pretty good chance at the nomination. In terms of the general, if he runs like he did for Governor he could be a formidable opponent to Hillary - if she doesn't nominate a black VP I could see African-Americans leaving the Democratic Party in droves.

I think he's joking...
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2014, 08:29:26 AM »


Literally?  He is literally a horse?
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2014, 08:52:10 AM »

Napoleon is doing god's work in the 2016 forum.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2014, 12:41:24 PM »

OMG please stop with these nonsensical suggestions

If you said Barack Obama was going to be the next President right after Bush's reelection, people would be saying that to you. Politics is so unpredictable these days, Obama proved dark horse candidates can win. Everyone thought Hillary Clinton and John Edwards were the serious contenders. If you're paying attention, I said "potential dark horse" not "clear front runner". Please discuss the topic at hand in context.

You're missing it...Obama was young, charismatic, inspiring, and a United States Senator. Steele is boring, hasn't held an office higher than Lieutenant Governor, and lost both his 2006 election for Senate and his 2010 reelection bid as RNC chair. Comparing Steele to Obama is quite ludicrous in fact; I'm not saying you have to be a big name to have a shot at the presidency, but there are certain things you need if you want to rise as a dark horse and Steele does not have any of those.

You already know all that though...

You're ignoring all the important anecdotes. Look at the 2012 GOP primary. Herman Cain emerged as a dark horse despite NEVER holding elected office. Now he didn't win but at one point he was a threat. I'm asking if dark horse Michael Steele could maybe replicate or surpass that level of success.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2014, 12:48:00 PM »

Like Napoleon said, Herman Cain came from nowhere in 2012 and potentially would have won the nomination without the scandal.

Compared to Cain, Michael Steele has much more name recognition. If Herman Cain can win the nomination, so can Steele. The difference is that Steele would be an extremely formidable opponent to Hillary in the General Election - Cain wouldn't.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2014, 04:08:14 PM »

Presiding over the Republican victories of 2010 means piss-all. Come on. A steaming pile of garbage could've been the RNC chairman at the time and we still would've seen Republicans take the House.

I don't think it's unrealistic. Granted, he starts out at a disadvantage by not having elected office, but 2010 was considered one of the biggest wave elections and Steele presided under it, which shows a strong amount of leadership. Additionally he would be appealing to party leaders as an African-American. As long as he runs to the right, he should have a pretty good chance at the nomination. In terms of the general, if he runs like he did for Governor he could be a formidable opponent to Hillary - if she doesn't nominate a black VP I could see African-Americans leaving the Democratic Party in droves.

I think he's joking...

I know he's joking. I'm just don't think Steele deserves credit for anything whatsoever. Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2014, 02:19:17 AM »

Michael Steele is exactly what the Republican Party needs in a nominee. Godspeed
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