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« on: July 09, 2014, 02:02:46 PM »

From AP's twitter.

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2014, 02:50:08 PM »









...as it were.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2014, 04:10:23 PM »

Surely Utah can incorporate and get a religious exemption.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2014, 06:39:13 PM »

Surely Utah can incorporate and get a religious exemption.

If the state of Utah were allowed to cease public control and become a theocracy under the jurisdiction of the LDS Church (something I've been wanting to write a dystopian novel about someday for quite some time... if any of you steal this idea, you shall fear my wrath) to apply for said exemption, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some sort of citizen's movement propagating the idea were to arise.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 03:59:48 AM »
« Edited: July 10, 2014, 04:04:58 AM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Gay marriage should definitely have 5 votes on SCOTUS. Evidence is that Alito denied a request to halt gay marriage in PA. There's no way he'd do that if there weren't 5 votes for gay marriage on SCOTUS.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/breaking_scotus_justice_alito_denies_county_clerk_request_pennsylvania_marriage_secured


I could see Roberts voting for gay marriage like he voted to save the ObamaCare mandate, because it'll help distract people from how right-wing the court is on most other issues.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 08:11:47 AM »

Scalia's dissent, kvetched from the bench, is going to be epic.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 09:18:41 AM »

If the Supreme Court declines to hear the case until the full 10th Circuit has a chance to rule, this could conceivably act as a delay in getting a final resolution.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2014, 03:03:09 PM »

They aren't going to rule on it for a long time however.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2014, 03:17:31 PM »

The majority five do not recognize a separation of religion and state, so a crafty states rights argument or an "it's my religious freedom to discriminate" put artfully could make for a pretty close vote. I'd guess somewhere between 6-3 in favor of SSM to 5-4 against. Or, and this is not that far fetched, they could say that in this particular instance because of this or that or maybe something else Utah can disallow it. They're definitely not above that after the terrible Hobby Lobby ruling.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2014, 07:32:34 PM »

A Hobby Lobby type ruling in a SSM case could only come if a court or a legislature had mandated that those who officiate at weddings be required to officiate at SSM weddings, even if their religion didn't recognize it.  Unless Kennedy has bought a new Ouija board with which to make rulings, there's a solid 5 justice majority that will rule in favor of government recognition of SSM when they finally have to rule.  Kennedy clearly signaled that in Windsor, but advanced some pseudo-Federalist claptrap so as to avoid doing it nationwide last year and thus give public opinion more time to shift in favor of SSM before issuing a final ruling.  Roberts is really the only vote I'm uncertain of. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 12:54:19 AM »

It would be hilarious if Utah is the catalyst for gay marriage nationwide. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 02:08:26 AM »

It would be hilarious if Utah is the catalyst for gay marriage nationwide. 

Well, you can thank Virgina for interracial marriage nationwide, and you can thank Connecticut (LOL!) for birth control.
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