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« on: July 10, 2014, 02:12:48 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 02:38:28 PM »

Don't worry, Democrats are doing their best to make sure nobody knows about this and act like this was a failure--especially those running for re-election.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 02:42:49 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 02:53:41 PM »

The real good numbers in this poll is that the drop is more significant with 18-34 year olds than 35-64 year olds:

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 03:28:21 PM »

Don't worry, Democrats are doing their best to make sure nobody knows about this and act like this was a failure--especially those running for re-election.

Yup, we have such a losers mentality.
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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 05:29:32 PM »

Thank you Barack Obama! Few presidents have done so much to improve the lives of so many.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 05:48:58 PM »

Don't worry, Democrats are doing their best to make sure nobody knows about this and act like this was a failure--especially those running for re-election.

Yeah, really.  How come we aren't seeing stuff like this on Mark Begich or Mary Landrieu's Facebook pages?
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2014, 06:05:10 PM »

Not that I like Obamacare and fully support it, but I'll give credit where credit is due. Obamacare has certainly benefitted my family.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2014, 06:33:55 PM »

The question remains: Why are young people disproportionately uninsured compared to other age groups? If consumers aren't buying a product, it usually isn't the fault of consumers, but rather of the providers of that product for failing to provide sufficient value to consumers. Most health insurance policies don't have much value for healthy young people because the high premiums are not worth the few treatments they're likely to need. There are tons of regulatory mandates on health insurers requiring them to cover all sorts of treatments that healthy young people will never need, which pushes up premiums and prevents insurers from offering policies that appeal to that age demographic. If you really want to get premiums down and help young people get insured, you need to go after the regulatory mandates.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2014, 06:46:30 PM »

The question remains: Why are young people disproportionately uninsured compared to other age groups?

Because life is hard and health insurance is low priority for young people. But like all things low priority in youth, you look back regretting not doing it later.
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2014, 06:48:24 PM »

The question remains: Why are young people disproportionately uninsured compared to other age groups?

Because they are immature and think than they are invisible, young and than only old people have healthcare needs.
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2014, 07:27:22 PM »

Only 13.4 % away from his Communist Kenyan Muslim goal of destroying our freedoms.
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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2014, 07:40:32 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2014, 07:44:02 PM by boshembechle »

When you force people to buy insurance, what the hell do you think is going to happen to the number of people that are uninsured, especially when the penalty is more than the cost of insurance?
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2014, 09:03:32 PM »

When you force people to buy insurance, what the hell do you think is going to happen to the number of people that are uninsured, especially when the penalty is more than the cost of insurance?

Unfortunately that isn't even close to being true, which is why the uninsured rate is still 13.4% rather than the low single digits...
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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2014, 09:41:17 PM »

The real good numbers in this poll is that the drop is more significant with 18-34 year olds than 35-64 year olds:



Question: Why is the uninsured rate for 25-34 year olds higher than 18-24 year olds? How does their overtaking of the youngs in 2011 in the context of the long-term numbers?
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2014, 09:42:52 PM »

The real good numbers in this poll is that the drop is more significant with 18-34 year olds than 35-64 year olds:



Question: Why is the uninsured rate for 25-34 year olds higher than 18-24 year olds? How does their overtaking of the youngs in 2011 in the context of the long-term numbers?

18-25 are often covered by their parents insurance.
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2014, 11:34:03 PM »

Also, I just wish these articles would mention both sides of the equation. 90% of the plans are subsidized. 90% percent. The people that are making that massive subsidization possible will make there voices heard in November. Also, of significant note, 2% of the drop is due to medicaid expansion.

I just wonder if the problems covered California people are having finding a doctor is going to be a national problem. As many people on medicare/medicaid can attest, insurance does not mean doctor.
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2014, 06:21:07 AM »

When you force people to buy insurance, what the hell do you think is going to happen to the number of people that are uninsured, especially when the penalty is more than the cost of insurance?

Unfortunately that isn't even close to being true, which is why the uninsured rate is still 13.4% rather than the low single digits...
The other reason the number is still 13.4% rather than low single digits is because of states refusing to accept the Medicaid expansion.

Also, I just wish these articles would mention both sides of the equation. 90% of the plans are subsidized. 90% percent. The people that are making that massive subsidization possible will make there voices heard in November. Also, of significant note, 2% of the drop is due to medicaid expansion.

I just wonder if the problems covered California people are having finding a doctor is going to be a national problem. As many people on medicare/medicaid can attest, insurance does not mean doctor.
Do you have an argument about why Medicaid expansion is bad? Because I have an argument about why it's good. If people have insurance, they're more likely to get preventative care, which is far less expensive than catastrophic care. If they have no insurance and wait until the point of catastrophe, then they go to the ER and they've got to be treated by law, and then the system has to cover those costs. Covering them with Medicaid winds up saving everyone money.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2014, 08:03:23 AM »

When you force enable people to buy insurance, what the hell do you think is going to happen to the number of people that are uninsured...?

FTFY.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2014, 08:23:55 AM »

Also, I just wish these articles would mention both sides of the equation. 90% of the plans are subsidized. 90% percent. The people that are making that massive subsidization possible will make there voices heard in November. Also, of significant note, 2% of the drop is due to medicaid expansion.

I just wonder if the problems covered California people are having finding a doctor is going to be a national problem. As many people on medicare/medicaid can attest, insurance does not mean doctor.

If your point is that we don't have enough doctors, and the ACA doesn't sufficiently address this issue, you are correct.

If your assertion is that having insurance--of any sort--won't help someone get into a doctor's office, you are probably incorrect. It is far more difficult to see a doctor if you don't have insurance, than if you do.
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2014, 09:48:43 AM »

The question remains: Why are young people disproportionately uninsured compared to other age groups? If consumers aren't buying a product, it usually isn't the fault of consumers, but rather of the providers of that product for failing to provide sufficient value to consumers. Most health insurance policies don't have much value for healthy young people because the high premiums are not worth the few treatments they're likely to need. There are tons of regulatory mandates on health insurers requiring them to cover all sorts of treatments that healthy young people will never need, which pushes up premiums and prevents insurers from offering policies that appeal to that age demographic. If you really want to get premiums down and help young people get insured, you need to go after the regulatory mandates.

Because they are unemployed, and our system tethers people to their employer.
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2014, 09:55:40 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2014, 10:04:56 AM »

The real good numbers in this poll is that the drop is more significant with 18-34 year olds than 35-64 year olds:



Question: Why is the uninsured rate for 25-34 year olds higher than 18-24 year olds? How does their overtaking of the youngs in 2011 in the context of the long-term numbers?

That changed as the ACA allowed people under the age of 26 to stay on their parents' insurance.

You can see the two lines cross in late-2010.
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2014, 11:57:32 AM »

US uninsurance rate drops to 13.4%, record low

The threat of a fine of several hundred dollars has an effect on consumer habits.  Who knew?
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2014, 12:11:13 PM »

US uninsurance rate drops to 13.4%, record low

The threat of a fine tax of several hundred dollars has an effect on consumer habits.  Who knew?

FTFY </Roberts>
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