Opinion of Hamas

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Obviously terrible, but there's a reason they ascended to power in the first place.

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The latest round of rocket attacks were retaliation for an Israeli airstrike meant directly to provoke them--combined with the fact that we now know that the kidnapping was a lone wolf attack and that the Netanyahu regime knew from the beginning that the kids were dead, declaring Hamas more terroristic than Israel is difficult.

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Obviously terrible, but there's a reason they ascended to power in the first place.

No. No qualifications or equivocations. They're just horrible people. For the record, I don't support what Israel is doing in Gaza right now, but that doesn't change the fact that Hamas is a horrible organization.

Hamas wouldn't have been elected if not for the continued occupation and repression by the illegal settler state. I don't approve of their Islamism or their general domestic policy within Gaza, but I have no problems with their choice of violent resistance (given that the missiles have no targeting whatsoever, have almost entirely landed in the desert, and began the missile attacks as a response to an Israeli airstrike in Gaza and the killing of a teenager in the West Bank).

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Makes as much sense.

There is an analogy to be made between Israel and South Africa. That is not the correct one.

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Say what you want about Israel, it doesn't justify lobbing rockets at towns. If you do that, you're an HP. Not hard.

What are you if you bomb schools, hospitals, and UN shelters (without any proof that they're actually Hamas hideouts as your propaganda claims)?

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Say what you want about Israel, it doesn't justify lobbing rockets at towns. If you do that, you're an HP. Not hard.

What are you if you bomb schools, hospitals, and UN shelters (without any proof that they're actually Hamas hideouts as your propaganda claims)?

The UN has admitted there were rockets at their schools.

http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFL6N0Q45TO20140729

Some civilian targets did, and many haven't. We have confirmation that there has also been wanton killings of civilians in the ground offensive, some bragged about by IDF forces themselves.

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Germany was treated extremely unfairly in the Versailles Treaty, this is pretty undeniable. They were assigned blame for a war they didn't start, saddled with crushing reparation debts, and subjected to the stripping of large portions of their territory. Would the German people have had legitimate grievances with these actions? Of course. Were the Nazis responding to these legitimate grievances? Yes. But no one is going to say this somehow justified what they did.

Germany invaded over a dozen countries and built camps for the specific purpose of killing/enslaving civilians considered racially/politically undesirable. Hamas has certainly committed acts of unjust violence against blatantly civilian targets, but putting them at the same level is absurd. In addition, Germany, despite a horrible economy and temporary occupation, did not face the same humanitarian situation that Gaza does now.

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That is all true, but in this current 2014 campaign, 95% of Israeli deaths have been soldiers compared to 30% of Gaza deaths.

There is an argument to be made from Hamas's perspective that because most Israelis are either settlers or direct descendants of settlers that have been accomplices in pushing out Arabs, that they are not civilians in the same way that citizens of other countries are.  I do not agree with this viewpoint for the record, but it is their viewpoint.

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The worst political party in the world.

Who's worse?

Likud, for one.