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Question: You got what you wanted, Unionists. You win. Now it's time to determine who gets the credit for the Depression!
#1
Union Party: President Elihu Root of New York
 
#2
Union Party: Governor Calvin Coolidge of Massachusetts
 
#3
Union Party: Senator Warren G. Harding of Ohio
 
#4
Union Party: General Leonard Wood of New Hampshire
 
#5
Union Party: Mr. Nicholas Murray Butler of New York
 
#6
Farmer-Labor Party: Fmr. President Eugene V. Debs of Indiana
 
#7
Farmer-Labor Party: Representative A. Mitchell Palmer of Pennsylvania
 
#8
Farmer-Labor Party: Senator Thomas R. Marshall of Indiana
 
#9
Farmer-Labor Party: Senator Robert Owen of Oklahoma
 
#10
Farmer-Labor Party: Senator James Cox of Ohio
 
#11
Farmer-Labor Party: Fmr. Governor Woodrow Wilson of New Jersey
 
#12
Farmer-Labor Party: Merger
 
#13
Bull-Moose Party:  Senate Minority Leader Robert M. La Follette of Wisconsin
 
#14
Bull-Moose Party: Senator Hiram Johnson of California
 
#15
Bull-Moose Party: Governor Frank Orren Lowden of Illinois
 
#16
Bull-Moose Party: Governor William Sproul of Pennsylvania
 
#17
Bull-Moose Party: Senator George Norris of Nebraska
 
#18
Bull-Moose Party: Governor Alfred E. Smith of New York
 
#19
Bull-Moose Party: Merger
 
#20
Populist Party: Senator Carter Glass of Virginia
 
#21
Populist Party: Senator James Reed of Missouri
 
#22
Populist Party: Senator Augustus Stanley of Kentucky
 
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Total Voters: 42

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« on: July 14, 2014, 05:29:30 PM »
« edited: July 14, 2014, 05:31:15 PM by X is Tywinning »

Debs/Congressman Fiorello LaGaurdia

Down with the merger!
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2014, 11:50:03 AM »

Preference Coolidge, Harding, or Reed.

Stategically voted Palmer

But...but...but...I thought only liberals try to sabatoge their opponents' primaries Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 09:17:07 AM »

Preference Coolidge, Harding, or Reed.

Stategically voted Palmer

But...but...but...I thought only liberals try to sabatoge their opponents' primaries Roll Eyes

No, it's just 1920's fault - last go-around we had sabotage in 1920 too.

But can we surpass a sabotage like Pat Buchanan in 1992, who subsequently only got 6%?

Pat Buchanan was 1996, IIRC (and ironically, I think it only worked because so many Republicans voted for Bill Clinton to try to sabotage the Democrats Tongue ).  This being the Atlas, I actually doubt it was sabotage that led to Ron Paul's nomination in 1992.  However, while a significant number of Buchanan's votes were likely Republican, I'm sure some lefties voted for him and (IIRC) I was among those who criticized that.  The way I see it, sabotaging your opponent's nomination contest is wrong regardless of who does it and only makes this thing less fun.  I also don't consider "well they started it" or "yeah, but you guys were worse" to be a legitimate justification for sabotage.  My point was that in Cathcon's original series some folks on the right tried to act like only liberal posters were doing this and clearly that isn't the case.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 06:40:07 AM »

Senator Harding for Vice-President and Senator Poindexter of Washington for Vice-President! Let us return to normalcy, enforce civil rights and respect the rule of law (on most things at least).

Poindexter is a Bull-Moose Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 12:46:12 PM »

Here's a question that might be interesting that I just thought about: what are the demographics of the country like in this universe compared to IRL? I don't recall many immigration restrictions (if any at all) placed by the various administrations over the years, so more people across the world must have been coming over here.

You've never answered this, Alfred Sad

I'm not actually sure about that one - I'm not up on the history of immigration restrictions in the Progressive Era, which was when I took over. IIRC we didn't pass a Chinese Exclusion Act or anything like that, but I doubt Cannon was the immigrant's best friend.

And longtime Senate Majority Leader Henry Cabot Lodge *definitely* wasn't a friend to immigrants...
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 12:47:00 PM »

President Root, lol, abandoned by everyone bar good ol' loyal me.

Wait, did the results show up and if so, why can't I see them Huh
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 01:31:29 PM »

Senator Harding for Vice-President and Senator Poindexter of Washington for Vice-President! Let us return to normalcy, enforce civil rights and respect the rule of law (on most things at least).

Unless it's been specifically contradicted, I'd think Poindexter would be a Bull-Moose. Are you suggesting a unity ticket and, if so, under which party line?

Harding would make a half-way decent Bull Moose candidate. He was a "progressive" on many issues. Harding is hardly the arch-conservative he is made out to be (that is also true of J. Calvin Coolidge). A unity ticket would also be helpful to counter the huge turnout that will benefit ex-President Debs.

Except Coolidge and Harding's radically right-wing economic views are essentially incompatible with the current iteration of the Bull-Moose Party.  And while pretty favorably disposed towards civil rights (within the context of the 1920s Republican Party's conservative wing), neither was a progressive by any means.  The big thing Harding has in common with almost all members of the Bull-Moose party is that he is a staunch isolationist.  If anything, a unity ticket between the B-M and the F-L is more likely, but I'd rather not see that as the general election outcome would be all-but-predermined.
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