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« on: July 14, 2014, 08:01:41 PM »

WTF?

This is for the 2nd place berth from the June 3th primary election for California State Controller.

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/14/6555904/full-recount-could-last-beyond.html#mi_rss=Latest%20News
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 08:41:04 PM »

Perez should just stand down and build a stronger profile in the assembly. In the end this is all just a run for governor or the Senate anyway.
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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2014, 09:34:49 PM »

Perez should just stand down and build a stronger profile in the assembly. In the end this is all just a run for governor or the Senate anyway.

Perez should do nothing of the sort.  Why should it take 5 months to recount ballots?  That's a scandal in itself.  Additional staff should be hired, if necessary.

This recount is not even statewide, which is crap.  No recount should be anything but jurisdiction-wide.  Partial recounts of a candidate's favorable counties should be avoided.  It treats some voters as more special than others, worthy of having their votes recounted but not others, violating equal protection.
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2014, 09:50:07 PM »

Another reason to get rid of the horrendous blanket primary.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2014, 12:05:55 AM »

Time to abolish the stupid system. Otherwise, we run the risk of something like this occurring.

2018 Jungle Primary for California Governor

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Kamela Harris (16%)
Antonio Villaraigosa (14%)
Random Dem Congresscritter (6%)
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2014, 12:28:35 AM »

Another reason to get rid of the horrendous blanket primary.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2014, 12:48:28 AM »

Another reason to get rid of the horrendous blanket primary.

Idiocy. That may happen under every imaginable primary system. Anything is better then previous party primary system, which, mostly, produced only "activist idiots" as a candidates.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2014, 12:49:56 AM »

Time to abolish the stupid system. Otherwise, we run the risk of something like this occurring.

2018 Jungle Primary for California Governor

Random Rethuglican (20%)
Random Rethuglican (18%)
Gavin Newsom (17)
Kamela Harris (16%)
Antonio Villaraigosa (14%)
Random Dem Congresscritter (6%)
Random Dem Statewide Official (4%)
Green (1%)
Libertarian (1%)
Constitution (1%)
Independent dude (1%)
Independent dude (1%)



Dn't be much more stupid then republicans - and you will not get it. And if you insist on being idiotically stupid - who is to blame, but you?
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2014, 01:00:00 AM »

Another reason to get rid of the horrendous blanket primary.

Idiocy. That may happen under every imaginable primary system. Anything is better then previous party primary system, which, mostly, produced only "activist idiots" as a candidates.

The distinction being, that when you have party primaries, the party can step in to be an arbiter to resolve these types of situations so there is still a general election candidate in a reasonable period of time. In this case, both sides will drag this out as long as possible, given the stakes. But this isn't even one of the bigger issues about why this system is terrible; there are myriad reasons to do away with it.

Case in points: Panda Express's post highlights one of the big issues with the blanket primary. When one party has a wider field of credible candidates that split the vote, the less contested party can squeak through (e.g. CA-31, which would've been lean Dem had one advanced). Or alternatively, more neutral districts can have one party run two low-key candidate but the other side advances two, due to a competitive primary ramping up GOTV operations amongst their party's voters (CA-25).

All primary systems will have some sort of flaw. This one has many and will hopefully be done away with in a ballot initiative in 2016 or 2018.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2014, 07:05:31 AM »

California's experiment copying Louisiana jungle primary for statewide elections is pretty much mixed to say the least.

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2014, 11:22:16 AM »

Perez should just stand down and build a stronger profile in the assembly. In the end this is all just a run for governor or the Senate anyway.

Perez should do nothing of the sort.  Why should it take 5 months to recount ballots?  That's a scandal in itself.  Additional staff should be hired, if necessary.

This recount is not even statewide, which is crap.  No recount should be anything but jurisdiction-wide.  Partial recounts of a candidate's favorable counties should be avoided.  It treats some voters as more special than others, worthy of having their votes recounted but not others, violating equal protection.

Even if Perez builds up enough of a margin, there's nothing stopping Yee from calling her own recount of Bay Area counties. The process will only drag on and on and the party will just sour on Perez which would ruin any of his own prospects for advancement.
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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2014, 09:40:03 PM »

Perez conceded.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2014, 02:49:48 PM »


Congratulations to Betty Yee, the next California Controller.
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2014, 09:08:54 AM »

Any polling between Yee and Swearengin ?

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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2014, 09:22:15 AM »


That won't be necessary
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2014, 09:39:27 AM »

No relation to Leland I hope.
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