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« on: July 16, 2014, 08:14:25 AM »



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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2014, 08:15:44 AM »

Option 2.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 08:16:59 AM »

Option 3
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 08:21:39 AM »

On Spiegel.de, about 150.000 people have voted so far and ca. 52% chose the OK options, 28% chose the various "not OK" options and 20% the "more or less neutral/lean not OK" options.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2014, 08:28:39 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2014, 08:55:25 AM by Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do »

Option 3, but I don't care enough to actually vote for it in this poll. Tongue

(Btw, I just realized that "GauchoGate" is probably the world's first "Gate" to actually involve a gate.)
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2014, 09:04:37 AM »

I cant say I am familiar with this, but it seems if you win the World Cup you can be a little offensive.  However, it does not give Germany the right to eternally joke about Argentina.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2014, 09:56:56 AM »

Option 2. Winning the World Cup entitles the team and fans to a bit of gloating, but this should be a one time display.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2014, 10:16:29 AM »

I'm surprised they (whoever "they" are) let the Germans win anything in the first place.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2014, 12:01:36 PM »

What the hell? I refuse to believe that this is a real issue people are complaining about. I mean, wasn't it a joke in the middle of the celebrations of winning the Friggin' World Cup?
Gloating not only is perfectly fine, it should be encouraged for at least a month after the cup Grin

If Argentina had won maybe we wouldn't be mocking the germans that much, but the Brazilians would see no end to our gloating for the next, I don't know, decade probably Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2014, 12:12:50 PM »

Option 3, but I don't care enough to actually vote for it in this poll. Tongue

(Btw, I just realized that "GauchoGate" is probably the world's first "Gate" to actually involve a gate.)

Don't forget Gatesgate. Although that didn't involve a gate in the classic-fortification sense.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2014, 12:25:28 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2014, 12:28:48 PM »

It's like my grandmother always used to say: "You can take the boy out of the nationalsocialisticgermanworker's party, but you can't take the nationalsocialisticgermanworker's party out of the boy."
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2014, 12:54:12 PM »

It's a pretty standard chant in German club football and gauchos aren't a harmful racial stereotype or whatever. But we all knew that the haters would come out of the woodwork once Germany reclaimed it's rightful place in the soccer world.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2014, 04:23:33 PM »

For what it's worth, Shkodran Mustafi also participated in the "performance".
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2014, 11:52:21 PM »

Oh no! Time for the handwringing to be notched up a level to correct this!



For the record, it just looks like a really lame routine/chant. What annoying champions...
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2014, 12:15:50 AM »

Is gaucho even an insult in Argentina? I thought it was the equivalent of saying "Yankees" when referring to Americans.
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2014, 03:35:32 AM »

It's a pretty standard chant in German club football and gauchos aren't a harmful racial stereotype or whatever. But we all knew that the haters would come out of the woodwork once Germany reclaimed it's rightful place in the soccer world.

Our rightful place, I like it.

Especially when Spain, Italy and England in particular were shown their rightful places Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2014, 03:52:49 AM »

What's the context? that seems to be what would decide this.
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2014, 03:54:48 AM »

What's the context? that seems to be what would decide this.

It was their entrance to the victory celebration at the Brandenburger Tor.

I thought it was a bit childish, but outside of a certain part of the press, I have yet to find someone that found it particularly offensive.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2014, 03:55:00 AM »

What's the context? that seems to be what would decide this.

The context is that it is silly season and the media has nothing else worth reporting.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2014, 05:08:17 AM »

They should have goose-stepped in rhythm to Preussens Gloria like proper Germans.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2014, 07:23:17 AM »

They should have goose-stepped in rhythm to Preussens Gloria like proper Germans.

Seeing as this is coming from Generalfeldmarschall Mung Beans I'm assuming this is unsarcastic.
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2014, 07:27:50 AM »

What's the context? that seems to be what would decide this.

It was their entrance to the victory celebration at the Brandenburger Tor.

I thought it was a bit childish, but outside of a certain part of the press, I have yet to find someone that found it particularly offensive.

No, I know, I meant what is the context of the term gaucho in Germany? I vaguely recall that it just is to Argentina what cowboy is to the US?
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2014, 07:34:41 AM »

What's the context? that seems to be what would decide this.

It was their entrance to the victory celebration at the Brandenburger Tor.

I thought it was a bit childish, but outside of a certain part of the press, I have yet to find someone that found it particularly offensive.

No, I know, I meant what is the context of the term gaucho in Germany? I vaguely recall that it just is to Argentina what cowboy is to the US?

No specific meaning... seldomly used slang for South American.
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2014, 07:01:19 PM »

Actually the most revealing thing about this non-scandal is that it shows that German footballers have enough knowledge of South American stereotypes to have some idea of what a 'Gaucho' is, which I suspect is highly unlikely to be true of certain other countries....
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