NE2: The Taking Things Into Our Own Hands Act (Law)

[SWE]

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Sponsor: Representative Dr. Cynic

Debate on this bill will last for 72 hours, or until 12:00 PM on Saturday July 19, unless modified or extended. The sponsor has 36 hours to advocate for this proposed legislation. If he does not, this bill will be tabled as there is other pending legislation in the queue.

[Dr. Cynic]

This is the same bill I proposed earlier, but now with the time limit rider that Dallasfan wanted on it. I decided it was better to give it a shot rather than not attempt it at all.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

Glad you came around.

Anywho, I'm bearish but there isn't any harm in passing this as a trial program. Cynic seems like a natural pick for the job so he could perhaps set a 'model' for future Agency heads.

[Dr. Cynic]

Glad you came around.

Anywho, I'm bearish but there isn't any harm in passing this as a trial program. Cynic seems like a natural pick for the job so he could perhaps set a 'model' for future Agency heads.

You just happened to have caught me at a period when I was feeling extremely irritable on other things, so I had taken it out on the Assembly over the bill.

Like I said, I want to see this done and if a trial period is deemed necessary for it, then so be it. That said, if it works out, the next time I bring it up, it will be permanent

[sentinel]

I will oppose this legislation. Game Moderator and regional narration/storyline should be controlled solely at the federal level to avoid conflicts. The game engine team is already broken, this bill will only serve to make things worse.

However, I would support a thread for a Northeast "news outlet" of some sort. We don't need to do this by legislative decree.

[Prince of Salem]

I will oppose this legislation. Game Moderator and regional narration/storyline should be controlled solely at the federal level to avoid conflicts. The game engine team is already broken, this bill will only serve to make things worse.

However, I would support a thread for a Northeast "news outlet" of some sort. We don't need to do this by legislative decree.

Uh, sir... doesn't Section 2 Clause 2 solve that already? ^^

[sentinel]

I will oppose this legislation. Game Moderator and regional narration/storyline should be controlled solely at the federal level to avoid conflicts. The game engine team is already broken, this bill will only serve to make things worse.

However, I would support a thread for a Northeast "news outlet" of some sort. We don't need to do this by legislative decree.

Uh, sir... doesn't Section 2 Clause 2 solve that already? ^^

Section 2 Clause 2 is pointless because it's inherent. No matter if the Northeast passes it or not, its still true. Its not as if we're legislating that. The game engine should be done at the federal level, the regions should have no part in legislating it.

[Dr. Cynic]

I will oppose this legislation. Game Moderator and regional narration/storyline should be controlled solely at the federal level to avoid conflicts. The game engine team is already broken, this bill will only serve to make things worse.

However, I would support a thread for a Northeast "news outlet" of some sort. We don't need to do this by legislative decree.

Uh, sir... doesn't Section 2 Clause 2 solve that already? ^^

Section 2 Clause 2 is pointless because it's inherent. No matter if the Northeast passes it or not, its still true. Its not as if we're legislating that. The game engine should be done at the federal level, the regions should have no part in legislating it.

Why not?

[Dr. Cynic]

If we have no regional engines, not even operating under the eye of the GM, then what would be the point of having regions at all? Every state has a statewide newspaper that deals with only issues for say New York or Washington.

Why would it hurt to get something done on a regional level?

[Talleyrand]

I'm with Dallasfan on this one. I see nothing wrong with having this as a trial program, and it could infuse some activity into the region.

[sentinel]

On top of that, if there was interest in this -- people would be doing it. A legislative decree for this is pointless. The only way to get increased activity is to do extremely controversial things (ie legalize bestiality) or recruit more people to the regions.

[Dr. Cynic]

On top of that, if there was interest in this -- people would be doing it. A legislative decree for this is pointless. The only way to get increased activity is to do extremely controversial things (ie legalize bestiality) or recruit more people to the regions.

No one does it because up to this point, we've left it to the GM. With the GM having a full plate on federal issues, how can one expect them to go into regional news as well? If this doesn't work, then fine, the legislation expires. I don't see why you are so opposed to this.

[sentinel]

Because we don't need legislation to do it. Talleyrand (or anyone) can simply ask someone. This legislation is a sideshow.

[Dr. Cynic]

Because we don't need legislation to do it. Talleyrand (or anyone) can simply ask someone. This legislation is a sideshow.

But they haven't. I'd like to see something done and this sets up perimeters for operation.

[#CriminalizeSobriety]

Glad you came around.

Anywho, I'm bearish but there isn't any harm in passing this as a trial program. Cynic seems like a natural pick for the job so he could perhaps set a 'model' for future Agency heads.

You just happened to have caught me at a period when I was feeling extremely irritable on other things, so I had taken it out on the Assembly over the bill.

Like I said, I want to see this done and if a trial period is deemed necessary for it, then so be it. That said, if it works out, the next time I bring it up, it will be permanent

Seems fair enough.

Since there are some skeptics (Sirnick and myself to a lesser extent) would you perhaps be willing to unveil a demo post as to what you'd expect out of this?

[Napoleon]

On top of that, if there was interest in this -- people would be doing it. A legislative decree for this is pointless. The only way to get increased activity is to do extremely controversial things (ie legalize bestiality) or recruit more people to the regions.

No one does it because up to this point, we've left it to the GM. With the GM having a full plate on federal issues, how can one expect them to go into regional news as well? If this doesn't work, then fine, the legislation expires. I don't see why you are so opposed to this.

I've already gone in to regional news...

[Prince of Salem]

I will oppose this legislation. Game Moderator and regional narration/storyline should be controlled solely at the federal level to avoid conflicts. The game engine team is already broken, this bill will only serve to make things worse.

However, I would support a thread for a Northeast "news outlet" of some sort. We don't need to do this by legislative decree.

Uh, sir... doesn't Section 2 Clause 2 solve that already? ^^

Section 2 Clause 2 is pointless because it's inherent. No matter if the Northeast passes it or not, its still true. Its not as if we're legislating that. The game engine should be done at the federal level, the regions should have no part in legislating it.

I think Section 2 Clause 2 does some good by clarifying that. Yeah, it's supposed to be obvious, but clarifying never does any harm ^^ Besides, this may do some good by adding to the info some data that the GM could omit.

I'm with Dallasfan on this one. I see nothing wrong with having this as a trial program, and it could infuse some activity into the region.

I stand with my two governors, then

[sentinel]

I'll second Napoleon and point out how ya'll are now ignoring his regional news updates. I think this law would ultimately be unconstitutional (conflicts w/ the federal law). We cannot create a subordinate to the GM,  or someone with any sort of GM like abilities. This is not a power given to the regions.

Like I said, if someone wants to create a newspaper - just ask them.

[Dr. Cynic]

If they think it's unconstitutional, let them take it to the court then.

As far as an article, ordinarily, I would write one, but at the moment, I'm on my phone and that's more effort than my fat thumb can go through right now .... However it could go something along the lines of "contention in the Assembly as Governor and legislature at loggerheads"... And then you'd get your story. Or, say a homeless vet is attacked by a street gang... Something like that, just so we can have specific issues to address.

[SWE]

The debate period is now over. We will now proceed to a vote on this bill, as written:

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This vote will last for 48 hours or until all Representatives have voted.

[sentinel]

Nay

[Dr. Cynic]

Aye

[SWE]

Aye

[Sopranos Republican]

AYE

(localization adds more personality to the game, in my opinion.)

[SWE]

The voting period is now over. By a vote of 3-1-1, this bill goes to the governor for his signature or veto.