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MalaspinaGold
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« Reply #450 on: August 19, 2014, 03:18:33 PM »

Netanyahu has recalled the Israeli delegation.

Mind-numbingly stupid thing to do, especially considering it's likely that Hamas wasn't the group that shot the rockets (more likely PRC or one of the Jihadi groups.
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« Reply #451 on: August 19, 2014, 10:34:09 PM »

Does anyone know who was in the Israeli delegation?
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« Reply #452 on: August 20, 2014, 04:22:26 AM »

Netanyahu has recalled the Israeli delegation.

Mind-numbingly stupid thing to do, especially considering it's likely that Hamas wasn't the group that shot the rockets (more likely PRC or one of the Jihadi groups.

It's still their territory and it's not like they're condemning it.
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« Reply #453 on: August 21, 2014, 03:10:44 PM »

Settlers' dogs attack Palestinian children.
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« Reply #454 on: August 21, 2014, 04:54:06 PM »


You are literally posting from a website run by the Iranian government with support from Neo-Nazi website Veterans Today, that has in the past claimed that Israel and American Jews were behind 9/11.
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« Reply #455 on: August 21, 2014, 05:45:24 PM »


You are literally posting from a website run by the Iranian government with support from Neo-Nazi website Veterans Today, that has in the past claimed that Israel and American Jews were behind 9/11.

Press TV and Russia Today are far more reliable sources than the Western Imperialist Propaganda™ you swallow on a daily basis, sheep.
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« Reply #456 on: August 21, 2014, 11:00:28 PM »


You are literally posting from a website run by the Iranian government with support from Neo-Nazi website Veterans Today, that has in the past claimed that Israel and American Jews were behind 9/11.

Press TV and Russia Today are far more reliable sources than the Western Imperialist Propaganda™ you swallow on a daily basis, sheep.
Excellent parody of a crazy person!
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« Reply #457 on: August 22, 2014, 12:22:47 PM »

The big news today is that following the Israeli assassination of three senior Hamas military officials, Hamas have lynched twenty one alleged informers.
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« Reply #458 on: August 22, 2014, 01:53:01 PM »

The big news today is that following the Israeli assassination of three senior Hamas military officials, Hamas have lynched twenty one alleged informers.
Generally Israeli military law allows capital punishment at times of war with light of severe treason. I guess if 3 IDF generals would have been assassinated with their families thanks due treason at time of intense war and siege we might see executions too.

This is seriously turning into a circus, I'm not sure if there's anyone in the government who even knows what we want here.
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« Reply #459 on: August 22, 2014, 04:40:15 PM »

The big news today is that following the Israeli assassination of three senior Hamas military officials, Hamas have lynched twenty one alleged informers.
Generally Israeli military law allows capital punishment at times of war with light of severe treason. I guess if 3 IDF generals would have been assassinated with their families thanks due treason at time of intense war and siege we might see executions too.

This is seriously turning into a circus, I'm not sure if there's anyone in the government who even knows what we want here.

I'm guessing there'd be trials with evidence presented and a verdict by jury, not a summary execution of all the accused.

Executing collaborators is no scandal. The speed with which Hamas finds and kills collaborators makes me think these are more likely just political opponents.
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« Reply #460 on: August 22, 2014, 05:31:20 PM »

There seems to be some confusion over the figures; different sources say 18 or 21.

This is seriously turning into a circus

Absolutely.
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« Reply #461 on: August 22, 2014, 07:11:10 PM »


It turned into one the second the ceasefire agreement fell through.
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« Reply #462 on: August 23, 2014, 06:38:24 AM »

On average, there has been a rocket fired every 10 minutes since the last ceasefire was broken by Hamas.
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« Reply #463 on: August 23, 2014, 12:18:23 PM »

http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/204268/an-israeli-novelists-cry-for-peace-a-rabbis-reply/?
There are two articles here: one is a transcript of a speech by David Grossman at a Peace rally, calling for a broad coalition against the growing extremism in Israeli politics and society.

The second one is by an Orthodox rabbi, Yuval Sherlow who seems to agree with Grossman's key points, but who argues that Grossman is turning off the Israeli public in some of his metaphors, and is thus digging himself into a deeper hole.

I personally agree with Grossman and his tone, though Sherlow is correct in arguing that it will take Israeli public support to seek a solution.

Also, old interview with a Hadash party member on why a one-state is unworkable
http://newvoices.org/2009/02/12/0036-4/
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« Reply #464 on: August 23, 2014, 01:23:11 PM »


You are literally posting from a website run by the Iranian government with support from Neo-Nazi website Veterans Today, that has in the past claimed that Israel and American Jews were behind 9/11.

Reactionaries like you are a greater danger to society than Press TV, trust me.
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« Reply #465 on: August 23, 2014, 01:25:17 PM »

“The missiles that are now being launched against Israel, each and every missile constitutes a crime against humanity, whether it hits or misses, because it is directed at civilian targets,”
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« Reply #466 on: August 23, 2014, 01:28:26 PM »

Vichy Palestine has been a joke for a while now.
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« Reply #467 on: August 23, 2014, 02:17:17 PM »


You are literally posting from a website run by the Iranian government with support from Neo-Nazi website Veterans Today, that has in the past claimed that Israel and American Jews were behind 9/11.

Reactionaries like you are a greater danger to society than Press TV, trust me.

Dude, you defend Nazi war criminals.
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« Reply #468 on: August 23, 2014, 02:24:22 PM »

Good things they don't launch missiles but rather rockets...
Not to take a stand at the humanity of each side right now I think standing international law regarding wars is completely unfit to judge situations like these. Coded law designed to alleviate causalities in state-to-state wars is not fit to address a complicated situation like these. Warfare is sprinting ahead of law.
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« Reply #469 on: August 23, 2014, 02:39:48 PM »


I don't recall you being particularly hot and bothered when UN schools were getting shelled. I think your problem is that you are more upset by a Palestinian rocket that kills zero Israeli civilians than you are by Israeli artillery that kills multiple Palestinian civilians because on some possibly subconscious level you view Israeli lives as being inherently more valuable.
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« Reply #470 on: August 23, 2014, 05:45:57 PM »


I don't recall you being particularly hot and bothered when UN schools were getting shelled. I think your problem is that you are more upset by a Palestinian rocket that kills zero Israeli civilians than you are by Israeli artillery that kills multiple Palestinian civilians because on some possibly subconscious level you view Israeli lives as being inherently more valuable.

Or perhaps because one is a flat-out attempt to kill civilians, while the other is a belated response aimed at reducing enemy military capabilities.


You are literally posting from a website run by the Iranian government with support from Neo-Nazi website Veterans Today, that has in the past claimed that Israel and American Jews were behind 9/11.

Reactionaries like you are a greater danger to society than Press TV, trust me.

Dude, you defend Nazi war criminals.

Which court found him guilty of war crimes? I think you need your meds checked.
You defend much worse.

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« Reply #471 on: August 23, 2014, 07:31:39 PM »

Who is this?
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« Reply #472 on: August 24, 2014, 12:50:33 AM »


I don't recall you being particularly hot and bothered when UN schools were getting shelled. I think your problem is that you are more upset by a Palestinian rocket that kills zero Israeli civilians than you are by Israeli artillery that kills multiple Palestinian civilians because on some possibly subconscious level you view Israeli lives as being inherently more valuable.
And you've always been more upset with da Juice than you have Hamas, despite Hamas being the one that keeps breaking the ceasefire...do you know how many more Gazans would be alive today if Hamas had not broken the first ceasefire?  A lot of Gazans know.
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« Reply #473 on: August 24, 2014, 11:21:33 AM »


The only difference between a missile and a rocket is the presence of an internal guidance system.
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« Reply #474 on: August 24, 2014, 02:30:22 PM »


I don't recall you being particularly hot and bothered when UN schools were getting shelled. I think your problem is that you are more upset by a Palestinian rocket that kills zero Israeli civilians than you are by Israeli artillery that kills multiple Palestinian civilians because on some possibly subconscious level you view Israeli lives as being inherently more valuable.
And you've always been more upset with da Juice than you have Hamas, despite Hamas being the one that keeps breaking the ceasefire...do you know how many more Gazans would be alive today if Hamas had not broken the first ceasefire?  A lot of Gazans know.

I'm more upset with the people who have killed hundreds of civilians than I am with the people who have killed like three civilians.
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