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« on: July 19, 2014, 05:13:25 PM »

People in Malaysia would never even think of Jews, maybe not even know what a Jew was, if not for the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 10:24:54 AM »

Israel's actions in the Gaza strip aren't surprising or shocking in the least. They have a clear cut casus belli and Hamas should be punished for its actions. That isn't why this particular conflict is so troubling: Netanyahu is using the threat of Hamas' tunnels as a justification for formally withdrawing his (misleading)  public support of a two state solution and this comes as a Naftali Bennet is pushing for a de facto annextion of the West Bank. Something is rotten in Israel.

I'm an "anti-Zionist" because I am concerned for Jews who have no interest in living in an Israel that treats them as gentile-loving traitors. Israel legitimizes anti-semitism as a valid worldview every time it defends its settlements. Every time it displays ultra-jingoistic behavior by bombing Gaza hospitals, imprisoning those who work for NGOs and bullying the US, it makes the world a much darker place for Jews.

Netanyahu didn't withdraw his support for the two state solution. His position has always been that he would support a Palestinian state only if it had no army and allowed Israel free reign to go in and take out militants.

It's a moot point though since the two state solution is dead.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 02:08:40 AM »

No one has ever questioned the results of Turkish elections. Even the opposition doesn't claim elections are rigged.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 12:53:05 AM »

I don't think that's an honest assessment of the unity government. Fatah is not in THAT strong of a position. Hamas still regularly out polls them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 03:45:28 PM »

The reason Hamas is not killing civilians is not for lack of trying. There would probably still be suicide bombings every other day of not for the wall and the blockade. Lets not forget their crappy rockets either.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2014, 07:37:54 PM »

Netanyahu:
1. I will never let a two-state solution happen
2. I will never let Israel become a binational state
3. I will never give up any land west of the Jordan River

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-finally-speaks-his-mind/

Netanyahu didn't say any of those things. That article is massively dumb.

He just said that any Palestinian state would have to be demilitarized. He's always said that.

The thing about a binational state is right though.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2014, 09:57:58 AM »

Japan is not a sovereign nation?
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2014, 03:14:15 PM »

The sea port idea actually came from a Likud MK (he wanted Israeli control, not UN control though). I don't think it's a plot to re-arm, at least not any more so than any of the other proposals to end the blockade.
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2014, 10:34:09 PM »

Does anyone know who was in the Israeli delegation?
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