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jimrtex
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« on: July 17, 2014, 01:00:56 PM »


70% Anglo
16% Hispanic
8% Asian
4% Black
2% multiracial.
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 01:08:12 PM »

USF's precinct (not sure if students are counted as residents in it though, so it may not be representative):

White 53%
Asian 26%
Hispanic 10%
Black 5%
Multiracial 5%
If they lived in student housing (or off-campus as well) they would.  Note that whites in the 18-21 YO range are one of the few groups to be overcounted, because their parents include them at "home" and they are also included as living at school.  If they are in a dorm, there is a different census form, since they aren't considered as part of households.  If they are off campus in an apartment, they aren't treated differently than someone who had just moved to the city before the census.  I'd suspect that off-campus students might be under-reported.  They might ignore mail, and have moved by the time the census tries to count them.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 07:03:06 PM »

Does the Austrian census (if such exists) show the population by country of birth?
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 06:57:36 AM »

Looking into these numbers, about 0.5% of the population here was born in Africa.

(Most of them are living in the big cities).

In my home city of 10.000 I actually only know just 1 black family.

One could argue that Turks or Arabs, northern-Africans, Afghans etc. are our version of "Hispanics" though ... Tongue
In my home town, the surname of a particular family was synonymous with "Black".
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 07:19:08 AM »

Does the Austrian census (if such exists) show the population by country of birth?

Yes, Austria has a Census.

The last one was done in 2011, but the numbers from the CPR (Central Population Register) are more up-to-date than the Census figures.

The country of birth numbers (from 2002 to 2014) are here:

http://www.statistik.at/web_de/static/bevoelkerung_zu_jahresbeginn_seit_2002_nach_detailliertem_geburtsland_037044.pdf
Quite interesting.   Other than Germans and some Italians, relatively small numbers in the old EU compared to numbers from the new EU, though this is probably also due to Austria's location as the easternmost country of the old EU, and Vienna's location on its eastern edge.  Is there any sense of affinity based on the A-H empire?  Are many remnants of German-speaking communities in these countries?  Or maybe just that Austria was not a NATO member?

But then the numbers from the new EU countries are quite overwhelmed by those from BiH and Serbia, and the numbers from Kosovo and Macedonia are quite high, so it is definitely not an EU-specific phenomena.

A curiosity was the high number of persons from the Dominican Republic?  Is there some obvious connection, or is it like in the US where there is often chain migration, where friends and relatives are encouraged to immigrate where they are often provided housing and other assistance getting established. 

Is the J in Jemen and Japan pronounced the same?
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2014, 03:40:55 PM »

A curiosity was the high number of persons from the Dominican Republic?  Is there some obvious connection, or is it like in the US where there is often chain migration, where friends and relatives are encouraged to immigrate where they are often provided housing and other assistance getting established. 
Regarding the Dominicans (I checked the numbers, there are only 3000 in the whole country - of which I think mostly in Vienna): They seem to be regular immigrants, but there's of course the possibility that some brought their families with them after some time.
Among those from the Americas, only Americans and Brazilians were more numerous.  There are not that many Dominicans in DR (9 millions) and no obvious connection with Austria.  There are large numbers of Dominicans in New York City, where Adriano Espaillat (the 'll' is pronounced like the 'j' in Jemen) narrowly lost to Charlie Rangel, in his bid to become the first Dominican-American congressman.

Rangel-Espaillet primary map

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And yes, the J in Jemen and Japan is pronounced the same: Not like the "Tschey" you Americans pronounce it, but more like "yuh-mmy". In the case of Japan, it's pronounced "yuh-puhn".
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It was interesting that in one case that the spelling was changed to match the pronunciation, while the other the pronunciation was change to match the spelling.

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2014, 10:49:04 PM »

If you are interested in how the Austrian "register-based census" is done, STATISTICS Austria has a nice English summary-brochure about the last one held in 2011.

In 2001, Austria for the last time used a traditional census like you guys still use it in the US with paper forms and house visits etc. - but the government changed to register-based census-taking, because the Central Population Register, as well as several other comparison-registers already have all the info that is needed for a big census (only religion is not in any register, but this is not needed anyway).

Here is the English summary brochure with an explanation of how the RBC works:

PDF-file, 27 Megabytes.

http://www.statistik.at/dynamic/wcmsprod/idcplg?IdcService=GET_NATIVE_FILE&dID=164796&dDocName=076875
I'm pretty sure the concept of register would be a non-go in the USA.  Democrats would be concerned about it being used to deport illegal aliens.  Republicans would be concerned about the state having so much information on people.

Though of course the simple solution to Voter ID is that the federal government would issue the ID cards, and require that voters be permitted to vote in federal elections using the ID.  States would be free to maintain their other system of voter registration.  The federal government would automatically update local election authorities when a federal ID holder updates their address.

The federal system of government would also be a problem.  Imagine trying to do an EU census based on many registers of varying quality.
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