1828 Presidential Election

[ElectionsGuy]

Quincy Adams

[SPC]

Jackson was preferable to Adams on banking, internal improvements, and free trade. Nevertheless, Adams had the superior temperament for the office, and didn't have the stains of Indian removal, overt public graft, slavery, and expansion of executive power on his legacy.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Keep in mind that you can't just make a statement like "Jackson was 'conservative' on free trade," as a protective tariff to protect American businesses was a very pro-business, neoliberal policy in that time.  The GOP didn't just wake up one day in the '30s and no longer like tariffs, it just wasn't practical for how global of an economy we had become.

With that in mind, and many other things, I'd never vote for Andrew Jackson with a gun to my head.  Quincy Adams easily.

[Cranberry]

With hindsight of course Quincy Adams
Without? Probably Jackson

[Vega]

Adams.

[Maistre]

Protectionism = "Neoliberal"? lololol

I'd vote for Jackson, or historically, want the legislature to vote the electoral votes to Jackson.

[Rockefeller GOP]

Protectionism = "Neoliberal"? lololol

I'd vote for Jackson, or historically, want the legislature to vote the electoral votes to Jackson.

Ever taken an economics class?  Neoliberal has more or less usually meant pro-business policies.  You're so tied to the idea that small government = conservative, but that simply hasn't always been the case.  Jackson was an unabashed economic populist who used virtually the same talking points that Democratic candidates use today...

[Maistre]

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Yes, several.

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No. That's not what it means. Neoliberal is a term that refers to ideas going all the way back to classical liberalism. Namely, free trade, free markets, very limited government interference, etc you get the point. Neoliberal is sort of a misleading term because these ideas have been around for a while, but they've been dug up recently and given a modern flair, but nobody really would identify as one in modern times. Ironically in your argument's case, the Democratic Party under Jackson was probably the biggest proponent of these ideas.

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No I'm not, I'm quite aware of that.

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Er. Not really. Jackson certainly ran as a populist, he definitely liked to hate on the banks, the privileged and concentrated wealth but his economic policies are obviously no way similar to the modern Democratic Party.

[SWE]

Write-In: Martin Van Buren (not going to support an elitist who would oppose giving me a right to vote or a racist maniac)

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Write-In: Martin Van Buren (not going to support an elitist who would oppose giving me a right to vote or a racist maniac)

I agree with this.

[SWE]

Protectionism = "Neoliberal"? lololol

I'd vote for Jackson, or historically, want the legislature to vote the electoral votes to Jackson.

Ever taken an economics class?  Neoliberal has more or less usually meant pro-business policies.  You're so tied to the idea that small government = conservative, but that simply hasn't always been the case.  Jackson was an unabashed economic populist who used virtually the same talking points that Democratic candidates use today...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

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Neoliberalism has nothing to do with being probusiness, the term refers to keeping government out of the private sector, so more or less the perfect opposite of protectionism

[Goldwater]

Jackson.

[Mechaman]

Write-in: Working Men's Party Electors

Even before he was president Jackson was running on open Manifest Destiny and a defense of black slavery.  However, given that the types who supported the National Republican Party were full of those types who would view me and others of the Celtic stock as uncouth criminal savages who can't be trusted with a vote (inconvenient fact #996: electoral franchise in parts of New England was severely limited in the early 19th century to prevent French and Irish radicals from having an impact on government) and that John Q Adams had no problem (and was at the time supportive) of keeping the franchise severely limited for their benefit, I sure as hell can't say I'd be anywhere close to predisposed to voting for John Q.

Really, 1828 was a pretty sh*tty election with few choices.